Action Hero - Adriot Dex

[DAnconia]

Entrant - Ron McLeroy


Adriot Dex was born in hyper space fleeing from the Intergalactic Police with his dad steering the newly commandeered freight runner they had just stolen. After his dad was executed by a firing squad and his mother died in prison he was left to a boy's school, then escaped and was sent to a reform school. After pimp slapping the dean and grabbing the secretary's a**, he left that school too. At the age of 18 he boarded his first space ship since the day of his birth and nothing felt more right. He then hitched a ride on the ship of a famous bounty hunter in the universe at that time. Unknown to the Bounty Hunter, Adriot and another passenger were on board. Adriot thought he was the only other one, till he heard laser fire and a fight. He took one look at the cast away and knew he was no good. He grabbed a near by plasma rifle and exterminated him. The bounty hunter was grateful and took Adriot under his wing. He took every word that bounty hunter said and absorbed it into his soul and psyche. With the two of them working in collaboration they were the most loved and hated in the universe. The citizens loved them and the criminals despised them. And one of those criminals hated the bounty hunter so much he killed him.

Something clicked in Adriot after his mentor's death. He searched out the murderer and took his sweet time teaching the man "some respect". After Adriot was done with him, he wasn't going to disrespect anyone anymore. Adriot now on his own at the age of 28, mourned the bounty hunter's death for 3 years. In the public eye, they figured he was dead or retired. Those two words basically mean the same thing anyway. After his personal business was done, he wanted to get back to work. Seems that they had made another reality TV show about intergalactic bounty hunters and Adriot got in at the right time. He was kicking a** on a galactic level. He had become more loved and more hated than he had ever been. He got his own show and eventually it became so popular that when he was apprehending his bounties, they would wave at the camera and were honored that they were being cuffed by the Adriot Dex: Bounty Hunter From The Stars. He was televisioned, for the lack of a better word. Famous, rich, loved and hated but it wasn't just limited to citizens and criminals now. It was ALL the men jealous of him and all the women loving him. Which only widened his smile.

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[aurick]

Please edit your initial post to include your name. Thanks!

[C-Mad]

Great costume! Very eye-catching.
Powerful backstory.

~ON

[zeke3d]

man that adroit has got too many haters, tell him to brush em off.

[JUPITER]

is that z brush? anyway good colors on the eye's...nice back story also :tu:

[maxinkuk]

Nice costume... and good story.

[SolidSnakexxx]

I like this: " ... It was ALL the men jealous of him and all the women loving him...."


Look forward to seeing the progress.

[DAnconia]

SolidSnakexxx: Thanks. This is one of my beloved characters I have been working on in my head for a very long time. Decided to finally visualize him.

maxinkuk: Thanks.

JUPITER: I did the sketch in Alias Sketchbook. I miss my Photoshop so much.

zeke3d: That's all he does.

C-Mad: Thank you very much.

aurick: Will do.

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[Y/Haüss]

What a fantastic back story and sketches!!!
Congratulations.

[DAnconia]

Y/Haüss: Thank you very much.

Here is the base mesh I always use. Gonna start working some forms out tonight.

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[DAnconia]

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[Twitchmonkey]

I didn't read the story, because I have a phobia of words, I much prefer pictures. Based on the pictures I would say the design is pretty strong. I prefer my superheroes to have 5 eyes, glowing tattoos, and 15 layers of living armor, but for the look you're going for, the design is good. The mesh is also coming along well thus far. No critiques as of yet.

[Seavannah]

wow your fast. really great model start, sketches and story. Good luck and happy zbrushing.:D

[jinchoung]

is it adroit or adriot?

i'm assuming it's "adroit dex" correct?

jin

[DAnconia]

Twitchmonkey: HAHA! Thanks. Cant wait to see your entry. Post it soon!

Seavannah: Thank you. Good luck to you too.

jinchoung: No it is Adriot. I know the definition.

adroit:
–adjective
1.expert or nimble in the use of the hands or body.
2.cleverly skillful, resourceful, or ingenious

But it didnt roll off the tongue as well as Adriot. But it is still meant to imply the same as the definition.

[DAnconia]

Gonna start working on the legs tomorrow. After that work on defining the face more.

Gonna sketch out a pose tonight and try to find something dynamic enough. Might use the pose in the concept sketches. I like it enough.



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[Twitchmonkey]

I'm thinking the abs are looking a bit narrow. Otherwise he's looking solid thus far.

[DAnconia]

That's it Twitch. When I start my company you are head of Quality Control lol. You nailed it. I was trying to figure out what was wrong with it.

Post your entry! Im excited to see what you come up with!

[DAnconia]

Wanted to practice my transpose technique so I put it in the concept sketch pose. I like it. To me Adriot is very, how shall we say, pompous and arrogant. Yet at the same time very charismatic. The guy you love to hate with a super hot chick on his arm.

If anyone has any characters in mind that are like that from movies your input is greatly appreciated.

Characters that come to mind are a mix of Sawyer from Lost and Zaphod Beeblebrox from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

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[SolidSnakexxx]

Looking quite nice so far. I think the model looks a bit odd for not having the ears maybe? But the pose you are starting to put him's coming nicely along.

[MINTY]

I like the pose, very strong.

[jinchoung]

yah, great pose! very natural and at ease.

jin

p.s. actually, "adroit dex" sounds fine to me in terms of rhythm... but adriot sounds fine too... actually, if you went adroit, you can make "agility" his middle name! : )

[maxinkuk]

Nice pose indeed. He's very comfortable with himself. Almost a human peacock.

[Twitchmonkey]

Liking the pose, only thing I can think of is experimenting with the head. A little upward tilt could add arrogance and increased drama. Might not work out how I think it will, but something to consider.

I'll get to work on my entry tonight, if I can. I tried last night and was told I had to activate my copy of Zbrush. Happens every now and again and it fixes itself, I just hope it decides to be fixed tonight. Nope, no luck. Bummer. Anyway, I'll get going as soon as possible, I promise.

Edit: I tried to post an image from Poser on what I think you could do with the pose, but wouldn't you know it? Won't stop crashing on me. I have bad luck with computers.

[DAnconia]

SolidSnakexxx: Thanks. The shape of the body really came out in the pose. I can feel the forms a whole lot more now.

MINTY: Thank you.

jinchoung: Thank you. I am really surprised at how easy it was to pose the character.

maxinkuk: Haha! That is a very nice way to put the attitude I am going for.

Twitchmonkey: I was thinking it while you were writing it Twitch. I believe i got it.

Got the pose!

Going to work on the hands tomorrow. Have to finalize the forms of the fingers and then ball them into a fist. I really want the hands to be the best part of this sculpt as it is the weakest point in my drawing and sculpting.



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[Slimspoonful]

Liking it so far though I definitely think you could push the pose some more. It seems too balanced. Try shifting the weight to one side and adding some torque to the hips and shoulders and it should make the pose much more dynamic even if you want it pretty neutral:D . Great start.

Cheers,
Matt

[SolidSnakexxx]

The overall shape is more defined now. I think this one's going to be quite graceful when it's complete.

[Twitchmonkey]

There we go. That's the ticket. If you wanted to push the pose further, you could put one hand on his waist and straighten the other arm and make its hand into a fist. Alternatively you could give him a gun or a grenade in the other hand and bend the arm bringing it close to the face. I think what you've got so far works though, so those are just things to think about if the figure seems to be lacking drama.

Edit: When I talk about giving him a gun and bringing it in close to the face I mean like this:

[JUPITER]

good mesh i like the progress!
keep it up ;)

[Twitchmonkey]

Alright, I got Poser working and I tried out some poses that I think could work. The one most similar to your current pose but with what I consider to be a bit more drama is this one:

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It's not perfect, but something to take a look at. Poser is a great resource for, well, posing, and working out poses. Plus there is a trial available. Not a bad option to test poses and see if they work.

[sonicwind]

Cool. NOW WHERE THE HELL IS MY TATTOO?

[DAnconia]

Slimspoonful: Thank you. I am going to shift the weight to his left side. Gonna work that out later tonight.

SolidSnakexxx: Thank you. I am trying to keep it simple.

JUPITER: Thank you. This will be my first sculpt to finish so it will be exciting to see it completed.

Twitchmonkey: Thanks for the mock up. I liked that reference picture of Cable. I am trying to decide on what if any weapons he will wear.

sonicwind: HAHA!! I will get it done.


Worked on the hands a bit and the forearm as well. Still need to distribute the weight to his fee. They seem a bit off to me. Gonna sketch out his costume over this wip image and see what happens.

Happy Holidays!!

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[aiman]

I think his weight needs to be shifted a bit more onto one of his legs so he looks like he is really not working too hard to stand there and i think it will be more natural.

As far as a film reference, I would say he reminds me of Ryan Renolds from National Lampoon's Van Wilder hah.

[Twitchmonkey]

Looking good. I'd say give the legs some love. They're looking too bulky to me throughout. I think the mass is right at the most muscular points, but bringing in the form at certain points, such as the point behind the knee between the hamstrings and calf. I'm sure you intend to focus on the feet a lot more at some point, but roughing out their shape a bit would also help to bring all of the parts to about the same level of polish. Torso and arms are looking solid at this point though. Hands are looking proportionally correct, if you want to really make them shine, I think you'll want to focus on contouring the curves of the fingers and finally adding some vascularity, but that is of course something to focus on later on down the road.

[DAnconia]

Slanted the shoulders a bit more. After this Im going to add some more detail to the face. Block in some hair and finish up the hands.

aiman: Im trying to get it down. Whole lot of anatomy changed with even a slight bit of weight transfer. Its amazing and very challenging.

Twitchmonkey: Definitely got to give the legs more shape. Im not worried about the feet cause I am going to give him some boots. Just want to get the over all shape done.

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[Flack]

The upper body is looking pretty good, you've progressed a lot in your skills. You should be fine once you scale down that big ol' club foot of his but you're doing very well! Keep up the good work.

[DAnconia]

Flack: Thanks. I see what you mean about the club foot lol.

Small update. Taking the legs really slow. I want to make sure of all the forms so I will be drawing legs all weekend in my sketchpad.

Did a bit more on the face as well. Im liking it so far.

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[Twitchmonkey]

Face is looking good. Rough, but good. Keep going on those legs. Maybe start roughing in the major muscles of the upper leg like the rectus femoris, vastus lateralis, and vastus medialis. Also mind the knees, everyone has a different boney structure to the knee, but it might be best to hint at their compound nature, to really demonstrate your understanding of anatomy. Take a look at the back of the knee, the division between the biceps femoris and the semitendinosus might be a tad too defined for a fleshed model. Unfortunately, I can't see the back of my knee and the model I have sitting here has no flesh, so I may be wrong. Finally, the calf looks a little blocky from some angles.

Really slight issues with the leg, basically, and I know you're working on it, I just hope my random musings can be of some assistance.

[Fess]

I quite like your character. The form is very natural. I think what the pose is missing is the angle on the pelvis/ribcage. The pelvis is always higher on the leg that supports the most weight, and then the angles between pelvis to ribcage and ribcage to shoulders are smaller on that side as well.

[Teyon]

The model is coming along great as a sculpt. However, the pose is lacking much in the way of action. The pose needs to be more dynamic in my opinion. I'm not sure what your plans are down the road but you may want to consider alternatives to the current pose you've chosen. Remember the brief said the pose has to convey action and despite the fact that there are dynamic poses where characters are standing still, standing still doesn't really imply action. He's a buttocks kicking wildman, you should take advantage of that in the pose I think.

[DAnconia]

Took a break today due to the fact I got the 2nd season of The Shield. Which is an absolutely fantastic, consistent and addictive show. Watch it! Two seasons and every episode is so immersive.

Twitchmonkey: Thank you so much for your critiques. They are always in-depth and unbiased. You just know what needs to be done. Im going to start all over from the knee down. It is all off. Doesnt even compare to the upper body. Thats just unfair!

Fess: Thank you very much. I am trying to keep it as simple and clean as possible. Frank Frazetta said once that sometimes there can be too much detail. Not allowing the viewer to complete it for themselves. You dont let them have an imagination when you give it all to them. So I have been trying to stay away from ripped muscles and have clean graceful lines. Hint at forms here and there and allow the viewer to complete the rest.

Teyon: Couldnt agree more. I finally found an old drawing I did way back in the day that i am going off of. I have decided to have him at the edge of a cliff at the very moment he lunges off to pounce on a very very lucrituve bounty. So much to get done from head to toe. This pose is more of getting to know the character in a way. To know how he is relaxed pompous so I can better contrast it with focus and ferocity.

Thank you all for you encouragement and support. This is the only forum I participate in daily. The reason clearly shows in this entry and all the rest. That participation and inspiration flow from this forum.

Look for an update tomorrow!

[Lucky_1]

Looking good sofar Ron !
Keep it up.

[puzzle]

So far so good, I would look into beefing up the fingers a little bit....just a bit, they are getting a bit lost compared to the rest of the power in this figure.

[puzzle]

Oh yeah, just an agreement about what Frazetta said, a little bit of "Indication" in a painting/sculpture can go a long way....also look at Rodin.

[Teyon]

Ah! Makes sense to me. Then my only other suggestion would be to thin down the ankle area somewhat. Not a whole lot, just a bit. They're kind of the same size as the calf muscles in the last image, which seems odd. Unless you're going for a slightly stylized look...in which case, keep it.

:)

[DAnconia]

Didn't REALLY want to post this but i need help ladies and gentlemen. There is something off here.

Please critique everything BUT the hands. I haven't had the courage to do it yet lol. But i will work on it tonight i promise!

The scene will be him leaping off a cliff. Trying to capture the moment right before he jumps off.

I'm going to put a knife in his right hand.


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[aiman]

Whats off is his entire weight! He is tipping over right now because his foot is not under him, you need to rotate his entire upper body at least straight up or move his front foot under where his neck is.

[Flack]

Hey DAnconia, I'm going to try to help you out a little bit here.

paint over:

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1.) You've done an ok job at this part, but the back and the "push-off leg" should be inline with each other. You've done this but you've put the angle far too far forward. "Stand your guy up" a bit more and make sure that it's one smooth line from the push-off leg to the top of the back.

2.)The free leg should be up in the air, the theigh/top of the knee should be parallel (or close to parallel) to the ground.

3.) The foot should have a bend in it. Make the heel of the foot in the air while the ball of the foot is still flat on the group, pushing off on the surface your character is jumping off of.

4.) Let the foot on the free leg hang a bit, remember that it won't point straight down on it's own, it has tendons and muscles holding it in place, make it "sag and hang" a bit, it will look a lot more natural.


I've also attached an image of a boy jumping off a boat, he illustrates well what I'm talking about.

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[DAnconia]

Sorry guys, i should have put the whole scene in. Fixed some of the weight distribution.

This is the scene i envision. Well at least a rough draft of it.


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[joe55]

really nice pose. i am avoiding posing my guy like the plague! i gotta get on that

[dismantled]

is much better now in the scene... correct

I think the rock appears to over power you character.. maybe because it covers the lower leg or you may just have to change the view....

that kid jumping out of the boat is great!!!

[DAnconia]

joe55: The easiest way to pose a character, for me, is to act as if the transpose line is a bone. I also transpose in muscle groups so that the body moves along together. Also go slow and move the limbs slowly and reshape the forms in the lowest sub d level. You will get it done.

aiman: Thank you so much! You nailed it.

Flack: Thank you so much for the reference and paint over. that is really awesome of you to do for this entry.

[Twitchmonkey]

The pose is strong, but you really have to address his right leg. With how it's placed up against the rock, I can't see him leaping off anything with any fluidity, seems like at the moment he would stumble to his death. That's no good. If you were to simply lift his foot on top of the rock, well I think that would give him a fine chance to leap over whatever he is intent on leaping over.

I've got to get to work on my entry, my christmas break is over, but I just got to playing Neverwinter Nights 2 again, and you know how it is, "just one more quest and I'm done" and then it's 5 hours later.

[SolidSnakexxx]

Love the pose...it's looking quite natural. ..especially with the scene visible. :tu:

[threetails]

love the photo, thats great ref. your model is looking good. its nice to see your idea supported with real world ref, what anatomy ref are you using?

[DAnconia]

dismantled: Thanks. Yeah it looks better to be grounded than it is to be floating in the air. The rock i sketched in about 10 mins before posting lol. So there will be significant changes made.

Twitchmonkey: Yeah the pose was fixed with aiman and Flacks suggestions and paintover. So now i gotta workout all the small details. Going to look at some sprinters from the starting line and also football players at the scrimmage line and try to find a nice balance. Then again i might just change the entire pose all together lol. Its so easy to pose in Zbrush its crazy so tonight and tomorrow night im going to spend working on about 3 other poses and see which one is best. Thanks so much for your crit.

SolidSnakexxx: Thanks. Your sculpt is looking great. Your sessions with Alex is so apparent now that i know about it lol. I love it.

threetails: Thank you. Thanks to Flack for that reference photo. Its a really good one. I am using George Bridgmans Guide to Drawing From Life for anatomy reference. Basically I go through all the steps from head to toe and then back again on each new subdivisional level. For this pose i did not have any reference. It shows on the balance issue of the first attempt. But for the contortion and position of the body i just put my own self in that pose to get a feeling and went from there.

[DAnconia]

A costume test. Just seeing what comes about. Added hair and going to redo the face tomorrow. Finished the fingers and that took most of the day. But well worth it.

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[MindFX]

WOW!!! The costume looks really great...

[DAnconia]

Added the bronze material since the last really didnt show the costume off too well.

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[Harmonic]

Hey his costume is looking cool, I like it so far. He seems to have some proportional issues though, looks like the fingers, arms and head are all a bit to small.

[dustbin1_uk]

Very nice work!! :tu:

[KiVanDi]

Good costume! :tu:

[SolidSnakexxx]

the Bronze mat is one of my fav as well.. It shows the creases and volume of your sculpt real well. Your character's coming out quite amazingly! :tu:

[Lucky_1]

Great update DAnconia,
I got an overall feeling that his body is a bit squashed down at the moment...

Keep it up.

[chindian]

Hey - nice progress... looks promising...

I like the first hero-stance pose better tho - it really has a triumphant feel to it... i almost can see him posed atop a mountain or something surveying the land and keeping a vigil eye out for baddies... haha

Keep up the good work! :tu:

[DAnconia]

Beefed up the arms and changes the gloves around. Im really dreading the retopology on this lol. Dont have that much experience but thank God for this contest so i have to force myself to learn. After i retopo this whole thing im gonna go for more detail.

Harmonic: Thanks. Hopefully i fixed that. If you look at my previous models they are all proportionally correct.

dustbin1_uk: Thanks

KiVanDi: Thank you.

Lucky_1: Hmm really? Ill have to take a better look.

chindian: So do i. I put the character back in T-pose so that i could work on his suit in a symmetrical state. Makes it easier to improvise. Ill put him back in that pose or another i have been thinking about.

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[DAnconia]

Man was this super easy. I forgot to put on symmetry on the first go at it and it was all off. So i tried again with symmetry but Zbrush crashed unfortunately. The third time was a super charm.

Topology
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[DAnconia]

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[dustbin1_uk]

Good job on the retopology!!

Looking amazing now you refined some of the details!

[DAnconia]

dustbin1_uk: Thank you. It is so much easier on my processor speed to retopologize everything. Which is what im working on as we speak. Its so easy and im excited to be able to put more topology in the joint areas so it conforms better with Transpose Master. Im very excited. This is about the easiest way to sculpt without worry and then make a great base mesh afterwards. Creating at the speed of thought. You gotta love Zbrush!

[GregStrangis]

Like how the armor is coming out man keep going :D

[threetails]

looking realy cool. i like the bulk that he has, it very well propotioned. look forward to seeing some more. are you using Anatomy ref or did you just go for it from memory?

[maxinkuk]

Hi Danconia, I've just been to hell and back with my retopologized model and Transpose Master. Almost every 5 poly star exploding after the transposing, I had to edit and re-edit until Transpose Master was happy with what he was fed. I advise you to make sure you have only those stars that are truly necessary.

[SolidSnakexxx]

The new organized mesh is great looking. :tu: I'll be going through this process also..Hopefully it will be a good experience for me like it was to you.

[adroit.jr]

nice work.

[gordon-v]

nice work!
your character is developing very good!

[DAnconia]

GregStrangis: Thank you.

threetails: Thank you. I am using George Bridgmans Guide to Drawing From Life as reference. Its like a 400 page book with over 1000 illustrations. Pretty much i go through each page in the book for each subdivision and the rest is from my noggin.

maxinkuk: I hear you on that. I guess the chest topology was a fluke cause im on the arms and the vertices are flying all over the place. Im not sure what the problem is.

SolidSnakexxx: Thanks. Im sure you will do very well.

adroit.jr: Thanks.

gordon-v: Thank you.

[Twitchmonkey]

It's looking good. I've been out of commission for awhile so I haven't been following your progress, but the sculpt is looking very nice.

[MindFX]

Your design is coming along very well. Keep it up.

[DAnconia]

Man o man! Last night our office everyone was blaming everyone else and it just got real bad. I tried calming them down but wow. So i took the night off and went to play music with some of my friends to let go of some steam and then went killing zombies with Left 4 Dead.

Going to work on the topology of the arms. Hopefully it will work this time.

Twitchmonkey: Sorry to hear about your illness. I hope you are feeling better. Thanks for taking the time to look through my progress.

MindFX: Thanks.

[wethand]

he looks so cool!!! very, very nice!
and i love the long hair.

lol
left4dead is such a funny game, thats true! just laughed when i played it the first time...

[DAnconia]

wethand: L4D is a great release of frustration definitely. Whats your screen name? Ill add you to the friends list!

I resculpted the pants. didnt like the design. Let me know what you all think!

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[Twitchmonkey]

I like the design for a guy in a cool suit, but I'm not sure he says super to me yet. As you know, I don't read things, and haven't yet read his description, but if it doesn't conflict with his personality, I would delineate the muscle masses more. Really bring in the areas around his biceps, define the underside of the pectorals, etc. Not a critique on the form so much as a personal judgment about his presence. Besides that, the only issues I see are pose issues, and since the pose is sort of a last minute thing, I don't know if those are worth bringing up. Otherwise it's great, no problems really, just aesthetic preference.

[DAnconia]

Twitchmonkey: Thanks! Yeah he really doesnt have any super powers. He is just a bounty hunter that kicks butt and has an attitude lol. I wanted something as simple as possible and not have to deal with magical powers. These are just some sketches. Im really not liking the whole extract and retopologize method. It was a waste of time in the end. So im just going to sculpt directly on the body so i dont have any open ends and it will look and feel more solid in the end. So im gonna get cracking on that tonight. You feeling better now since getting out of the hospital?

[Twitchmonkey]

Oh yeah, I've gone from horrible pain that could only be managed through what was the equivalent of heroin being pumped through my veins every few hours to feeling perfectly fine.

With your description, the body makes more sense. I think you should at some point focus on texture to make him more interesting with his fairly standard features. Show which parts of his armor are metal and which are cloth, and give his boots a different texture entirely. Of course, that will come later, but I have nothing to critique at the moment, so I figured I'd speculate on what you should do next.

[Moni-Poroni]

Hi DAnconia, really great progress...:tu:
The hairstyle is cool..
I love how it´s blowing in the wind :)

[Y/Haüss]

Very Well Sculpted and balanced!
Congratulations!

[DAnconia]

Twitchmonkey: Thanks. Glad to hear you are feeling better. I got so much to do. I tried the costume in the concept drawing but it didnt look that good. Im playing around with some ideas.

Moni-Poroni: Thanks

Y/Haüss: Thanks

Playing around with some ideas on the costume. This one doesnt jump out at me though. Still have to work the boots out. I believe i have the pose i need. Ill sketch it out tomorrow and see if it works.

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[DAnconia]

Here is the Concept Costume. Just to see.

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[DAnconia]

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[SolidSnakexxx]

Nice texture work so far. I really like the deep blue hue you selected for his outfit :tu:

[AVTPro]

Looks great. Very natural. Ready for action :)

[Twitchmonkey]

Everything is looking good. The color scheme really works.

[DAnconia]

SolidSnakexxx: Thanks. I still can do better though.

AVTPro: Thanks.

Twitchmonkey: Thanks. Im going to repaint everything after i get all the details worked out. Decided on a pose in my head so i am going to sketch it out tomorrow.

Here are two updates. think im gonna go with the second version. Cleaner and doesnt draw all of your attention directly to the sternum. Looks more like a target than practical armour.

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[SolidSnakexxx]

I also like the 2nd version better as the first one's hinting me to think of Ironman somehow. Great update as usual, mate. :tu:

[Twitchmonkey]

I like the new details, but the uniform depth seems a bit boring to me. They all sort of look like they were painted with the layer brush using the same intensity. I think mixing that up a bit would be beneficial.

[Gohanf22]

:eek: :eek: :eek: WOW! What a hell of a work out on this model. Nice job. Keep it up danconia. :D :tu:

Edit: I hope your not mad at me for not choosing interpretive stuff for Nightfall. I like that stuff its just im not sure it fits Nightfall to a T. I did choose stuff from gymnastics though. Thank you again.

[JUPITER]

Great job! Keep up the good work!!

[SOLcreator]

The style of the bodysuit is looking really good!

Nice job,

- SOL

[SOLcreator]

Want to share my character with you, click the image below to read more of his story >>

http://www.solcreator.com/knoweapon/assets/knoweaponbanner01.jpg (http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthread.php?t=66749&page=27&pp=1)

[Drakelot]

Xcellent progress ... I like the bodysuit and hair ... good luck !!! :tu:

[KrakenCMT]

Great updates! I like your costume designs. Very cool, but it's hard to pick one I like best from the last two. I think I tend to lean more towards the one that's not symmetrical - the one with the purple. :tu: :tu:

[Captain Sensible]

I agree with KrakenCMT on the costume design. The first one seems to have something with the asymmetry. Looking good though! :tu:

[wethand]

this looks awesome... nice costume design!
i like the second one better

[DAnconia]

SolidSnakexxx:Thank you.

Twitchmonkey: Thanks, now that you pointed that out it is very obvious to my eyes. Great crit as always brotha!

Gohanf22: Thanks! Nope, not mad at all. Im just glad to help and provide another set of eyes to your art.

SOLcreator: Your character looks really cool and thanks!

Drakelot: Thanks.

KrakenCMT: I liked the asymmetrical suit as well. Thanks. I always admired your work and knowledge of anatomy.

Captain Sensible: Thanks.

wethand: Thanks

So i figured out a scene. He is going to be hanging off the top of the cathedral grasping the cross at top while taking aim at his target. I am trying to get the muscle tension correct. It is so fun. I have not had a chance to pose the hands yet and his left wrist needs retooling. Please critique everything else.

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[Gohanf22]

im liking it so far danconia. i think your idea is pretty good. im sort of not too satisfied with how dynamic it would be but im not sure what to change either. ill get back to you if i can. other than that good job. :D :tu:

[Twitchmonkey]

I like the rigidity of his shooting arm, really gives him the look of a confident sharpshooter. I do have some issue with the support arm though. To support oneself in that position without some amount of support from the structure seems as though it would take a tremendous amount of strength. I understand that Adroit is a strong guy and he'll probably be using his leg(s) for support, but it would still make more sense to me if he was wrapping his arm around the cross for greater stability.

[DAnconia]

Gohanf22: Thanks. I look forward to your input and help. I will return the favor.

Twitchmonkey: Thanks. He will be supporting himself with both legs and have his hand grasping the cross. It will be made of iron so he can wrap his whole hand around it. If it doesnt look right, there is always rope. Time is winding down quickly aint it?

[Twitchmonkey]

Time is winding down quickly aint it?Hell no. There is still plenty of time. Or at least I have to keep telling myself that. Especially when Zbrush only lets me work on my model every few days. Anyway, I think I'd have to see the cross to really conceptualize what you're going for. Not that what I can conceptualize matters, but building a simple mock-up might help you really finesse your pose into becoming truly dynamic. Just a thought.

[Gohanf22]

ok ill have to try an think it up possibly tomorrow. my mind is going blank atm and i had an idea but i lost it. ill get back to ya asap. :D

[SolidSnakexxx]

cool pose so far..seems stiff at the time but it might fit the rest...I would love to see the whole figure posed.. :)

[DAnconia]

Twitchmonkey: Yeah im going to make the secondary items tomorrow.

Gohanf22: Appreciate it.

SolidSnakexxx: Well here you go.

Going to do the cathedral top tomorrow after work.

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[Gohanf22]

now i know what needs to be more dynamic and why this pose just doesnt seem right. with him just holding on by his arm, i know he is a strong fellow but just doesnt seem real to me. he may get tired. i think what should be done is have either some sort of brace for his legs. maybe put the one leg's foot around something to give him more support with the arm that is holding on to the catherdral. that may make it more dynamic. the choice is still yours. make it happen my friend. your doing a good job. :D :tu:

[DAnconia]

Gohanf22: Thanks. Yeah i didnt like it either.

Switched up the pose. I decided to sculpt the moment he took his revenge on the criminal that killed his mentor. Hopefully ill be able to get it down.

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[petekasim]

DAnconia, nice work on the poses :tu:

I actually really liked the cathedral pose, but this new one certainly ain't bad. It feels very natural and understated, but seeing as this is an Action Hero contest, maybe it lacks a little drama

I guess the face will add a lot, but do remember the images they showed as examples in the contest HQ.

Anyway, very solid sculpting skills on display here, all the best with your entry :)

[jackdaniels666]

Ya, I really wanted to see the cathedral scene. The pose looked pretty bad ass.

[Gohanf22]

hmmm. this maybe good. im not sure though. ill have to do some studying on this. ill get back to you when i get a chance to do some research. doing a good job still mate. keep it up. :D

[fluxist8070]

looking good! nice topo! The pose could maybe use a bit more twist in the hips.

[SolidSnakexxx]

Hey there, DAnconia, For me I much prefer the cathedral pose..it looks a lot more dynamic and very unique.. But the new pose's quite nice too, balance but less action like. :)

[Twitchmonkey]

I liked the other pose in theory, I wasn't quite sure what exactly you were going to do with it, but it showed potential. This new pose can work too, but I agree with some of the other posters that for this sort of contest you may want to push it a bit farther. More hip rotation and/or head rotation is what comes to mind immediately, those things can always add a more dynamic quality to a pose. It's also going to depend on what you're doing with the face, have you begun to rough out what sort of look you're going to give him in that regard?

[Drakelot]

Xcellent posing test ... !!! :tu:

[DAnconia]

petekasim: Thanks. I liked the idea of the cathedral pose but it didnt give him motion. It just had him too rigid in the end.

jackdaniels666: Thanks. Hopefully this pose is more to your liking. I love your sculpt. Top 3 on my personal list.

Gohanf22: Thanks. Would love your input on this one as well.

fluxist8070: Oh its twisted now.

Twitchmonkey: Thanks. I thought the same thing. The cathedral pose looked good in my head movies but not for this competition. Its more of an illustration than a printable object. The face i have done in my head. Im waiting to finalize a pose idea which i have just done so that i dont waste time on details when its not even set. For me when you transpose limbs and such, there is a whole lot of work to be done to correct everything.

Drakelot: Thanks.

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I LOOOOVE this pose.

Got a lot of work to do on the anatomy and such but this is a pose test for right now and it has passed. So i will start on the anatomy tomorrow. Right now i would like crits and comments on the pose more than the form.

Not thats its too far off ya know :lol:


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[jackdaniels666]

Nice, I can feel the power. It looks like he is about to mess someone up.

[Twitchmonkey]

The new pose is pretty great. Only thing I think you could possibly do is pull back the arms even further to get that last drop of implied force. It's already pretty extreme as is though, good work.

[SolidSnakexxx]

I like this new pose very much...like he's about to whoop someone's behind with that staff! :tu:

[Gohanf22]

i love this pose danconia. very well done. i think i do agree with the arm placement though. needs to probably be pulled back some to give it more power. see if that helps. good job man.

[Moni-Poroni]

.....Boooom...
I like it:) :tu:
There´s only one little thing..
The way he´s holding the stick...could be a little
hmm...don´t know how to explain :(

I think IMHO that the fingers could be maybe a little bit more strained (hope that´s the right word)
I´ve tried to imitate this pose with a broom :D and to be able to hit somebody down with it...
the hands must hold it tighter..and a little bit more agressive..
While I´ve tried it my fingers have been more spread than the fingers in your pose..
But that should be no crit..just an idea...;)
BTW-- I don´t know how to hit somebody down :lol:

[chindian]

Definitely like this last pose the best!!! Awesome man- can't wait to see it! :tu:

[Firebert]

I agree, this last pose is really good... tweak it just a tick more.... bring the character's left leg up more and elevated... right now it feels like both feet are too close to the ground OR bring the right leg back a little further and straighten it out with the left leg planted on the ground... this may be a little easier to accomplish while still maintaining the current pose.... you did an amazing job on the whole upper body... the rhythm of the arms and the arch of the back and torso is so incredibly spot on with a great silhouette!

[spimmy]

Nice pose, has very good weight to it, great work man! :cool:

[DAnconia]

jackdaniels666: Thanks. Yeah he is about to send someone back to school!

Twitchmonkey: Thanks. I tried pushing those arms a bit more but didnt like it. I think the weapon he will be using will give the rest of the motion and ferocity it needs.

SolidSnakexxx: Thanks. Yours is looking great as well. Always glad to help.

Moni-Poroni: Thanks. Im actually glad it inspired you to get up and put a broom in your hand haha. Thats funny. I havent started positioning the hands because the weapon isnt finalized yet.

chindian: Thanks.

Firerbert: Good eye on the legs. Its much more dynamic now. Thank you!

spimmy: Thanks

So this is the second level of detail. Also shifted the weight a bit more and had him lean into it also. I think it gives it a more dynamic pose. Its getting so fun.

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[SolidSnakexxx]

Looking more dynamic for certain.. Is it just me or the image obscure the view...it seems the legs are a lot bigger than the last post?

[Moni-Poroni]

Sorry I didn´t know this isn´t the final pose of the hands/fingers :)

BTW..it´s been the first time ever that I´ve had a broom in my hand :lol:
I never knew for what it´s good for :lol: LOL

The new pose is great :tu: :tu: :tu:

[Lucky_1]

I really like that last pose !
Keep it up

[DAnconia]

Moni-Poroni: No worries. Thanks

Lucky_1: Thanks. I really like your sculpt. Record as much as you can so we can watch.

Worked on the forms more. Still creating a weapon in my head that will work for this. Might sketch over it tonight and see what happens.

Im happy with it so far.

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[SolidSnakexxx]

Wow, looking at the pose on a larger version definitely wonderful. :tu: Very dynamic.

[gordon-v]

wow! alot has happend since my last post!
keep it rocking!

[DAnconia]

SolidSnakexxx: Thanks!

gordon-v: Thank you very much.

Here is an update. Still havent posed the fingers cause im not done with the weapon. Let me know what you think.

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[Twitchmonkey]

It's looking good. That isn't the side of the axe that I would imagine being the most useful, but they both look fairly deadly, so why not?

[SolidSnakexxx]

I like the feel of swinging.. A powerful pose I think. :tu:

[maxinkuk]

Very good study of the dynamic body. It has the potential to end up as one of the best entries in the contest. Two weeks left, enough to do anything.

[Gohanf22]

nice work danconia very nice work indeed. keep up the good work.:tu:

[Captain Sensible]

Great pose. Looking forward to seeing updates :tu:

[JUPITER]

Nice pose! that is hard to doo!! ;)

[Moni-Poroni]

Very dynamic pose..:tu:
He seems to be very strong..
Unortunately I haven´t any weapon like that...just my broom. :)
Keep up the good work.
I´m looking forward to your next update. :)

[DAnconia]

Twitchmonkey: Thanks. Yeah i didnt want to do anything traditional with the weapon.

SolidSnakexxx: Thank you.

maxinkuk: Wow thank so much. Great inspiration for me.

Gohanf22: Thank you kind sir.

Captain Sensible: Thank you. Heres an update for you.

Moni-Poroni: Thank you. I made the weapon overly large to push that sense of strength. I might give him some type of help though. Thinking semi mechanical arms. Love your Zsphere work.

JUPITER: Thanks. It took a whole lot of poses to get it down. It was worth it.

Worked on the torso. Blocked in some muscle forms. Still need to work on it more. Im getting the hang of it.

The ab muscles need some work if anyone could do a paint over it would be very appreciated.

Havent gotten all the way down the arms yet.



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[Drakelot]

Xcellent updates !!! :tu:

[Twitchmonkey]

Looking good so far. As for the abs, I think the problem is that they're all the same size. If my anatomical figure is to be believed, they get somewhat larger as they get farther down. Also, you might want to add an upward angle to the top ones. That's what I'm seeing in the model.

[DAnconia]

Twitchmonkey: Thanks. I think i fixed it. let me know what you think.

Drakelot: Thanks! Love your female sculpts. I cant wait to get some time to sculpt a series of females. Gotta finish this contest and then Dominance War starts on the 20th. Gonna be a great time.

Fixed some forms and the severe lines on the abs. Look much better to me. Still gotta work on the fingers and the face as well. Later on tonight im gonna work on the legs some more.

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[Twitchmonkey]

Looking good. I like the abs more now, they seem more natural. The pectorals and wrist extensors might be a tad overdone, I'm not sure I've even seen that sort of definition in Schwarzenegger. I could be wrong, but something to look at. Not really sure how to help you get farther than you are now. This is about where I get hung up, never sure how to add that extra level of polish that really makes the sculpt stand out. I hope you have better luck with that than I do.

[SolidSnakexxx]

Seems like the muscles and overall form are well crafted. Looking very good so far. :)

[DAnconia]

Twitchmonkey: Thanks. Yeah im learning as i go along too. Its so fun.

SolidSnakexxx: Thanks man! Good luck to you!

Update on the face and legs. Cant believe it came out so easily. Boy do i love my anatomy books haha!



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[SolidSnakexxx]

The face's looking real good.. :tu: ?Man you are whipping out the head real fast. And I agree a good ref book's so important for this kind of sculpt.

[DAnconia]

SolidSnakexxx: HAHAHA! I know! It was amazing to me. I have been imagining his face in my mind since the beginning of the contest. It all just fell into place. Thanks.

[SolidSnakexxx]

I think the process of facial sculpting is like you are delivering a baby...and in the process you'd imagine how your baby would look like..hehehehe :lol:

[Twitchmonkey]

The face seems well done, but a bit uninteresting to me. Anatomically I think you're on the right, but just taking the move brush to the eyebrows and mouth until you get something more powerful would be a good idea. I would also consider opening the mouth. There is rage in the pose, but only slight anger in the expression. The leg muscles are great. The mass seems proportional to the rest of the form and the shape is correct as far as I can recall. You may want to consider adding some sort of genital bulge. I think it adds a certain realism to a sculpt and you don't want him looking like a ken doll when he's finished. Great job thus far though, the pose and deformation are really working to sell the sculpt.

[DAnconia]

SolidSnakexxx: Haha! Exactly. Just make sure those babies dont get around Dankwing Duck haha!

Twitchmonkey: Hopefully its more interesting now. Thanks so much for the advice. I pushed the expression more and i love it. Your crits are so damn helpful! Thank you.

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[Twitchmonkey]

Glad to help. It's looking much better now. He has intensity. It's also clear you know your way around the planes of the face, be careful not to lose those if you take this further into the realm of realism, as they give him a ruggedness and strength. I like the hair, but be careful with it. If you don't have any more subD levels to work with, things can start to look a little wonky if you're not careful. If your rig can handle some more detail though, you should be good. Another you might want to consider is picking up Erklaerbar's Zbrush Fun Pack (http://www.notone.ch/Zbrush.htm). There are a lot of great brushes in there. Helps me when working with hair. There are also some nice materials and alphas. Well, keep up the good work.

[petekasim]

Hey DAnconia


That face is beautifully balanced and has tremendous aesthitic appeal. Work hard to ensure you retain it as you add detail

The pose is superb, very fluid and dynamic. The only flaw I can see is his left hip has become too high.

Here's a quick and dirty drawing I did using a mouse to illustrate:

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It's tricky to find ways of retaining dynanism within the bounds of anatomical accuracy. You can take liberties here and there when pursuing exaggeration and drama, but keep it as discreet as possible

Anyway, excellent updates, best of luck with your progress

[DAnconia]

Twitchmonkey: Thanks. I fixed the hair and had it a little more subtle. Finished the other eye too. Coming along well for me.

petekasim: Thank you. I love you entry. Her pose is so wonderful and the pedestal is so eloquent. Great job. Thanks for the paint over. I see what you mean. Dont you just love anatomy!

Finished the other eye and redid the hair. Going to move on to boots tonight and then the suit tomorrow. Thanks again for all of your help, support and your art. It inspires me every single day!

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[Audiodoc]

Excellent pose, so much energy and force behind it. Keep it up! :tu:

[Twitchmonkey]

The hair is coming together well. You've managed a pretty believable flow with the tube directionality. Wow, directionality is a word, +1 for Twitch.

[SolidSnakexxx]

Really like the facial expression. He's swinging the blow of death! :)

[DAnconia]

Audiodoc: Thank you very much.

Twitchmonkey: LOL! New word for me too. Thanks

SolidSnakexxx: Thanks man. Glad you like it.

Put some boots on him and i am gonna go over to illustrator and see if i can find a good design to put on the boot. Time for some Zapplink!!

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[ryankingslien]

I really love the gesture of this guy! The flow and energy is superb! Great job. Can't wait to see more.

[Twitchmonkey]

Loving it thus far. Only two possibly issues. The rectus femoris doesn't look perfect to me, I think it should increase in width somewhat as it approaches the pelvis. It also seems like it should be obscured by the sartorius as it approaches the pelvis. I could be wrong, just something to consider. The foot is also bothering me. The rotation seems more appropriate originating from the hip rather than the ankle. As it is now it seems somewhat unnatural. I don't know, I'm probably just crazy. Try as I might, I can't take issue with anything else.

[SolidSnakexxx]

Great update and looking fine with that MatCap. Also like the details on his weapon too. :)

[DAnconia]

ryankingslien: Thank you. Wouldnt have gotten this far if it werent for your DVDs. I use your pinch brush technique quite often. I cant express how much i appreciate you stopping by and commenting. You are definitely a master.

Twitchmonkey: Thanks for the critique. I really wanted to get the forms down cause i was gonna detail over it. As you can see with this update. Ill take a better look at the foot.

SolidSnakexxx: Thanks. Yeah i think i found my new favorite matcap. Its from the great Sathe. Called Hardstyle

Been sick for the last two days. Getting well enough to start sculpting again. Added a few bits and gave it some details. Let me know what you think.

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[spimmy]

Nice detailing, like the way the folds are working, and his weapon great!! Very cool sculpting!! :tu: :tu:

[SolidSnakexxx]

I like the updated cloth... he's looking more and more complete. :tu:

[maxinkuk]

I can really feel the energy, it's a massive pose, hurry up in detailing it.

[Twitchmonkey]

Everything is looking really good. My only problem is I can't tell where his shirt ends and his body begins, it sort of looks like a loose skin shirt. Defining the edge and maybe inflating the shirt area would be helpful I think. The folds themselves are looking great though. They make sense for the pose.

[Captain Sensible]

Great work man! I really like the pose on this character!:tu:

[DAnconia]

Thanks to everyone. Sorry cant do the usual individual replies. I am so sick right now its not even funny. Im not bitter though. Everything happens for a reason and im sure this is all going to fall into place eventually. Im going to go as far as i can up until thursday night. If i am no where close i will have to pull out. I am unable to create as freely and efficiently with such a high fever. But the show must go on.

Added a gauntlet. Im most likely going to throw it away and start over. Not sure yet. Like i said. Im not thinking or creating clearly right now. Just doing my best.

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[Moni-Poroni]

Great overall progress DAnconia. :tu:
Love your style on the weapon. :)
Get well soon.. hope you´ll get everything done in time.

[maxinkuk]

Sorry to hear you're not well. I think you've done one of the most dynamic entries, in not the most dynamic pose altogether. I hope you get well enough to finish it properly. Best Wishes.

[SolidSnakexxx]

Looking better and better there, DAnconia.. I also hope you feel good soon. And don't throw away that gauntlet..it's looking fine. :)

[Twitchmonkey]

Sorry to hear about your sickness, D. I now see what you were going with concerning the gauntlets and the shirt. It seems to me if you're up to it, it's time to move on to texturing.

[Drakelot]

Most impressive pose and sculpt ... good luck !!!

[DAnconia]

I am still very sick. I am literally seeing stars before my eyes as i write this. Thank you to everyone for your support. I will finish this in my personal wip thread after i get over this illness.

Good luck to all. I COULDA BEEN A CONTENDER!

Aurick. Please close this thread.

[JHK3D]

I hope you will recover from illness soon!! Take care of yourself.

[Twitchmonkey]

Well, at least you got to participate, it was good fun, wasn't it? Get well, D. You have to bee in good health for the next contest.

[jackdaniels666]

I hope you feel better now. I wanna see this guy finished. :)