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metamesh
07-08-07, 05:51 AM
Hi guys,
I just wanted to drop a line here to let people know about this guy who is actually taking images from few members from this forum and posting them as HIS work, check it out here: http://amrak-chronicals.deviantart.com/gallery/

There are some images from AlexLeia and some other guys and also some of myself, I don't really know what the steps to follow are but just to let all of you guys that this ****s happen!

DarthWayne
07-08-07, 06:08 AM
It always makes me both sad and angry to see plagerism. Does this guy / gal actually belive that people will NOT know these works? Plagerism such as that is THE quickest way to ruin your career before it gets started.

I personally would like to see all 3d and digtal sculpting sites take a much harder line on this sort of thing. While I dont condone 'witch hunts', as artists we do need some sort of protection for what is basically OUR intelectual property.

It is not acceptable in way shape or form or for any reason to plagerise another artist. The fact that the images he's stolen are for the most part well known show me that this may be someone young / new to the field who thinks they can get away with it.

Sorry if my view on this is a bit hardline for some, but personally I'd take all plagerisers out into a feild and shoot em. ;) Failing that a nice legal letter of 'cease and desist' usually does the trick I find.

Wayne...

9ineDown
07-08-07, 06:20 AM
Wow, that's an extremely crappy thing to do. I dont post at deviantart, but isnt there some way to report him/her to administrators/moderators?!? In my eyes, that's immediate grounds for permanent ban.

billrobertson42
07-08-07, 06:28 AM
According to this page: http://help.deviantart.com/contact

You should send an email to: violations@deviantart.com

ior-calin
07-08-07, 06:38 AM
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe."(Einstein) :lol:

This is sad but true.
In this case the guy stole works that are very well known( at lest for me)
but if he had stolen from a young artist then this would have been very bad for the artist. :cry:

-WOODY-
07-08-07, 06:46 AM
I'll agree with you that it is wrong. To take credit for that or use any imagery done by someone else without permission is the same as theft.

As a side note, the most boot-legged 3D software is 3DS Max, but strangely enough most people don't consider that theft......

SolidSnakexxx
07-08-07, 07:00 AM
Oh my God, that's bad...and very...rude.... taking credits for other people's works. Even seeing the credit being changed to his http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/59331568/ is reaklly horrible. That's no respect at all :(

As I'm compiling Thai ZBrush Tutorial book, I also request many great works to be included in there to inspire people...and I do ask for their permissions and always clearly state credits where they are due..

Teyon
07-08-07, 07:12 AM
Has anyone contacted the DeviantArt staff? This would be cause to do so! I'll do it.

Teyon
07-08-07, 07:21 AM
Message sent to the staff:

MEMBER ~AmraK-ChronicalS HAS STOLEN WORK FROM ZBRUSH CENTRAL AND POSTED IT HERE AS HIS/HER OWN!
To whom this may concern,
The Deviant known as ~AmraK-ChronicalS has posted work from various memebers of ZBrush Central as his or her own work. Of course this was done without permission and is a copyright violation. As many of the people who had their artwork stolen are in the Film or Videogame industry, it would be in your best interest to shut down and permanently ban member ~AmraK-ChronicalS before legal action is sought. I would hate to see DeviantART condemned for the actions of a single user, as I like it here. Below you will find links to a thread where the artists who have had their work stolen are discussing the issue.

http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthread.php?p=374753&posted=1#post374753

Thank you for your time,
Teyon Alexander
The-3dArtist

Jason Belec
07-08-07, 07:37 AM
I've also sent a message off to Devianart.com and passed the info on to some others who track this kind of thing down. Imitation is one thing and acceptable, out right theft is another and unacceptable, and the stones to post stolen work as yours and then make such claims should be dealt with accordingly.

Teyon
07-08-07, 07:45 AM
Cool. Hopefully they'll take him/her down soon. It really sucks that work was stolen but at least you caught the culprit. I don't even want to think about the dozens out there we've missed. :(

Aniruddh
07-08-07, 08:00 AM
i totally agry with u all guys........! i mean wht d hell is he/she thinking........? :evil:

how can nebody act so stupid.........? i've also sent a mail to devianart....hope they will took some action soon..........! this really sucks..! :mad:

Bryan Silva
07-08-07, 08:48 AM
What a dumb F**k! I say let him hang his self. GO GET A JOB WITH THEM YOU GENIUS. THEN GET FIRED WHEN YOU CANT CUT THE MUSTARD!

bicc39
07-08-07, 08:55 AM
Have actually had problems with photos that I have taken.

Problem was resolved to my satisfaction ( and profit) with legal help.

In this area, stuff I make isn't that good, so if I see it somewhere else (
and I have), I consider it a compliment.

Main recourse is to copyright it, and then unleash the dogs of war.

Kerwin
07-08-07, 08:56 AM
Reminds me of why I don't post finished work to the web.
-K

masterofacid
07-08-07, 09:05 AM
If one look at this incident at a more filosofical level, one must think about how one should be able to claim his or her rights in this digital world. How can you say that it´s actually your artwork, when someone else is claiming the same thing and you have the exact same material as proof? Should gallerys and forums like this have a policy to demand source files before you will be granted to uplaod your images? Aren´t we then just one step from a policestate? ( or mistrust state...)

But on the other hand, piracy with software is very common but in that case it´s "only" hurting companys "who can afford it" (mark my irony!!!). I have never heard about a forum that is litterly boiling with rage because someone have found out that there is a guy or gal who is using cracked software. So where does morality begins, and where does it ends.
If someone makes a picture in a stolen software, and then someone steals that picture, who is the thief? Both? none? The first? the second? I think that this incident will repeat over and over. The "instant life´s" constant hunt for instant gratification by others, will of course generate all kinds of copyright violations for pepole who doesnt´have the means or talent to create or produce their own content. It´s quite interesting that all commercials says " You must look like me, be like me", just that message alone have created an armada of copycats who have based thier whole existence on copying others or looking like others. So the step to "copy" someone else pictures on the net, shouldn´t be such a giant leap for a whole generation that has been drilled in the art of copy and paste!

Just some thoughts...

PS I am in no way accusing anyone here for anything, I am just thinking out loud.

PS 2 Isn´t actually the highest form of admiration for your work, that someone has copied it and now claims it´s his or hers. That person just want to be like you, the superstar artist...

calum5ZB
07-08-07, 09:20 AM
This prat should be exposed with a big photo showing what a low life looks like.Like dumbest criminals but 'art thieves' for the online forum traffic.:evil: :mad: :cry:

Ctrl-Z
07-08-07, 11:17 AM
Sebcesoir, Alex Oliver, Metamesh... I had a lot of respect for these guys, but now it turns out they've been ripping off AmraK-ChronicalS?

That's not cool.

mocaw
07-08-07, 12:53 PM
Frome the site he posts:

"ALOT more to come! I'm going to stop putting my name on there, cause it stuffs the quality up."

~AmraK-ChronicalS (http://amrak-chronicals.deviantart.com/)

Yeah...putting your name on the work just stuffs it up!?! Makes people want to stuff something up somewhere on you too buddy!

daddymack
07-08-07, 12:58 PM
Sebcesoir, Alex Oliver, Metamesh... I had a lot of respect for these guys, but now it turns out they've been ripping off AmraK-ChronicalS?

That's not cool.lol..my thoughts exactly... blaggers... Amrak should sue :p

DarthWayne
07-08-07, 01:18 PM
Frome the site he posts:

"ALOT more to come! I'm going to stop putting my name on there, cause it stuffs the quality up."

~AmraK-ChronicalS (http://amrak-chronicals.deviantart.com/)

Yeah...putting your name on the work just stuffs it up!?! Makes people want to stuff something up somewhere on you too buddy!LOL :D that made me laugh out loud. :D

I suppose a 'translation ' of that line would be:

'I have seen a load of image that I want to rip off but can't find a place for my logo /sig and am too damn lazy to edit them.'

Anyone want to take bets how long till that stuff gets removed? ;)


Wayne...

masterofacid
07-08-07, 01:20 PM
Ctrl z,

LOL, you hit the spot! ;)

willog
07-08-07, 01:59 PM
I have to say that I do enjoy at least some humour regarding this topic.
Don't get me wrong I like most do not accept people claiming works of others as their own, but you got to ask what is this guy up to he obviously knows that most people can see that the works are not his own, but he continues to post images of others.
Maybe he is doing what many artists do these days, anything to shock and draw attention, and lets face it he has at least done that.
I personally do not post any of my art work on the web, mainly because it's mostly in oils or acrylics and what I do with Zbrush is not really that good anyways.

Ctrl-Z keep up the humour, lightens things up a bit

mykyl
07-08-07, 02:18 PM
From some of his/her comments It seems he/she is not aware that they are 3d objects and not physical objects. In particular the one where he is offering the finished cyborg for $129.

Perhaps its closer to ebay style fraud. Attempting to sell objects that dont actually exist outside the computer screen.

So not much to laugh about at all. Especially if some poor fool gets conned into 'buying'.

Cheers

Mike R

monkeYB07
07-08-07, 02:26 PM
I dont believe it. :eek: And I was asking him only 10 minutes ago how he created those teeth on a character :rolleyes: . Well at least I didn't praise him :mad:

NightWolf7578
07-08-07, 02:27 PM
None of my work was stolen (mainly because it sucks and I'm new) but this makes me pissed he went and did this.

I highly suggest posting comments under every picture he posted linking it to the original source material, this will make him look even worse. I've done it to a few images allready.

RaelNorth
07-08-07, 02:32 PM
DA is notorious for stolen artwork of all kinds. Simply go into each picture in his gallery and click on the "report deviation" button, note copyright violation and post the link to the original image and artist.

monkeYB07
07-08-07, 02:32 PM
currently on it

NightWolf7578
07-08-07, 02:35 PM
I love how the users of Zbrush are banding together to out this faker!!!!!!

monkeymuscle
07-08-07, 02:41 PM
well its a small industry. if he had any dreams of working in it. its over! he will be exposed. just cant understand the lazyness. if he sucks just post on the forum and people will help you out! he must be like 12 and just figured out how to post stuff lol!

RaelNorth
07-08-07, 02:49 PM
I have also reported everything in his gallery with links back here to the original thread each work was in. Hopefully by tomorrow this jerkoff will be gone from DA for good.

billrobertson42
07-08-07, 02:59 PM
I just noticed that the first part of his user name is "karma" spelled backwards. :lol:

rivethead777
07-08-07, 06:13 PM
best thing to do as all artists do is post a digital watermark of your signiture name copyright

jseverson
07-08-07, 06:46 PM
Just noticed this thread. I can't believe someone would be this stupid.

skylertonne
07-08-07, 07:16 PM
probably just upped the twat's hits on his site by a factor of 10 though
hope he does end up paying a heavy price for his dishonesty
maybe his parents will spank him

Freewaldo
07-08-07, 07:36 PM
Woow, i just looked over your site man, amazing work, you'll find work in a flash with a folio like this. Strong anatomy and great definition.

Regards

spaz8
07-08-07, 08:11 PM
It is a small industry, I recognized and could name the artist that created just about every image in his very "impressive" portfolio.

skylertonne
07-08-07, 08:15 PM
Freewaldo was talking about jseverson i think
had a couple of seconds of being flattered then puzzled as i don't have one online lol

SalmonGod
07-08-07, 09:09 PM
I feel sorry for the guy because I'm sure he has no idea what kind of hurt he's brought on himself... judging from the outrage he's already stirring in such a short time, the consequences of his actions are going to be 20x anything he could have possibly gained, even if he got away with it

I don't understand the motive in the first place... what kind of satisfaction can he possibly be gaining from this?... what did he think he would do if he ever had to do any real artwork?... commission? job offer? somebody in real life asks to see him work?

it probably is just a kid who is feeling very overwhelmed right now... I bet he wipes his deviant page clean and disappears anytime now, hoping it will all just go away

Big Pixoling
07-08-07, 10:13 PM
Haha he don't even know what robocop is yet he created it.

highlander_72
07-08-07, 11:50 PM
That someone would do such a thing isnt anything new and really doesnt surprise me at all. Just another day in the world of man and the entertainment industry per se. What really cracks me up though is how anyone could go about it so idiodically stupid. There was no way in hell he was not going to be found out. Anybody who has even the slightest idea what is happening in this field will recognize these works as those of someone else. This must be some really dumb high-school kid trying to impress his peers or something like that, nothing else really makes any sense to me.

Anyways, lets hope they are going to remove him from that site. Trouble is, he's just gonna do it again under a different ID and with some other, perhaps lower profile work. Unfortunately, its just a matter of time and he is not the only one doing it, I am sure.

For the rest of us, I would say, posting our work right here on ZBC, on cgtalk etc, where the cream of the crop of the field and those aspiring to get to it post and read is the best way to assure that we are properly recognized as the creators of our work by the people who matter.

T.S.Wittelsbach
07-09-07, 12:34 AM
You do not have to register Your Copyrights but Prevention is Protection
If copyright infringement and protection is something that worries you, take the time right now to make sure you have a copyright notice on your Page or posts. Or can include a copyright notice in the footer of every post.

If it comes to it, the artists that have been ripped off can send a "DMCA Take Down Letter" to the Host Site and they take it very seriously, because after having been notified under the DMCA they could be held partially responsible for the infringement.
We have allot more rites than we used to.
Hell I remember someone bring me a portfolio with allot of my work in it looking for a job. He actually folded me out of one of the pictures. LMAO he almost died when I had Jeff bring a copy of the picture in with me still in it.
Every day more and more evidence you cant keep the farm animals from breeding.
Tomas

graphics100
07-09-07, 01:21 AM
i just saw this thread and im shocked that anyone would do this, and even more shocked that he wants money for it to
Finished; back. Bust available - $129

i say we tie him to the yardarm and let the gulls feed on him, now who knows what a yard arm is

Atwooki
07-09-07, 05:02 AM
Jeez - just noticed this thread - BEYOND UNBELIEVABLE :eek: :eek: :eek:

Surprised the link is still active as of right now also.....

Notice his feedback reply in the Profile section (page 2):



AmraK ChronicleS
2 days 1 hour ago

Thanks alot man! Its guys like you who make me carry on :)

Think he'll carry on ????? Hmmm....
Chris

julien n
07-09-07, 06:35 AM
that's incredible, some people are really crazy. :td:

DocChaos
07-09-07, 07:51 AM
abuse report sent to deviantart!

guys, artists, OWNERZ OF THAT FANTASTIC WORK.. do teh same thing!
deviantart is forced to remove and ban that guy asap! me as a deviantart member did read the agreement carefully some years ago, and i might remember that you are only allowed to post such things with permission of the respective owner.

well i guess that was not the fact.

sad regards
k0s

btw i cannot imagine, that they changed the agreement, well if, they would hardenup the agreement!

Sebcesoir
07-09-07, 08:05 AM
That seriously sux hard...

I would almost laugh, but I see 3 things that turns me freaking mad:

_This guy could possibly get a job by stealing our works

_ He even goes as far as writing he's name on the pictures...

_ he pretends to seel things, there's money involved...

Steal works on a forum like deviant art is the most stupid thing to do...

I can't stop thinking it's a bad joke, but if it's not, this guy might run into SERIOUS troubles...

-CainiaC-
07-09-07, 08:38 AM
Those of you who have sent e-mails to violations@deviantart.com did you remember to follow the instructions?

This is from http://about.deviantart.com/policy/service/




A physical or electronic signature of a person authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed.
Identification of the copyrighted work claimed to have been infringed, or, if multiple copyrighted works at a single online site are covered by a single notification, a representative list of such works at that site.
Identification of the material that is claimed to be infringing or to be the subject of infringing activity and that is to be removed or access to which is to be disabled, and information reasonably sufficient to permit the service provider to locate the material.
Information reasonably sufficient to permit the service provider to contact the complaining party, such as an address, telephone number, and, if available, an electronic mail address at which the complaining party may be contacted.
A statement that the complaining party has a good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of is not authorized by the copyright owner.
A statement that the information in the notification is accurate, and under penalty of perjury, that the complaining party is authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed.
I hope that guy/girl gets banned from DA soon.

industripop
07-09-07, 10:50 AM
DA made his page go bye-bye. Unbelievable. He has great taste in stolen works though :lol:

jack_webb
07-10-07, 12:54 AM
In case you missed it...

caché (http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:vKhK0y7sh8EJ:www.deviantart.com/deviation/59261866/+amrak-chronicals&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us)

caché (http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:JXFDxSTyN9UJ:www.deviantart.com/deviation/59331460/+amrak-chronicals&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us)

caché (http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:8iVBgofg250J:www.deviantart.com/deviation/59331285/+%7EAmraK-ChronicalS&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us)

caché (http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:JG9uAtQXqxEJ:www.deviantart.com/deviation/59331176/+%7EAmraK-ChronicalS&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us)

caché (http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:pwt99CaMe9oJ:www.deviantart.com/deviation/59331692/+%7EAmraK-ChronicalS&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=us)

WingedOne
07-10-07, 04:51 AM
Doesn't selling things you don't have to sell constitute fraud? :rolleyes:

rikdaren
07-10-07, 07:29 AM
His page can be removed fron deviantart.com if he is stealing others work.
I will check it out. :evil:

Teyon
07-10-07, 07:31 AM
His page was deleted already. :)

DocChaos
07-10-07, 09:25 AM
guys i ve written 3 simple lines.. and the page was removed.

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An: violations_(@)deviantart.com.... (changed adrees because of spambots)https://egroupware.drei-c-gmbh.lan/egroupware/felamimail/templates/default/images/sm_envelope.png (https://egroupware.drei-c-gmbh.lan/egroupware/index.php?menuaction=addressbook.uiaddressbook.add _email&add_email=violations%40deviantart.com&referer=%2Fegroupware%2Findex.php%3Fmenuaction%3Df elamimail.uidisplay.display%26showHeader%3Dfalse%2 6uid%3D77) Datum: 09.07.2007 - 16:51
hi,

~AmraK-ChronicalS , http://amrak-chronicals.deviantart.com/ (https://egroupware.drei-c-gmbh.lan/egroupware/redirect.php?go=http%3A%2F%2Famrak-chronicals.deviantart.com%2F)

has stolen COMPANY arts and other work from famous artist.
REMOVE this user ASAP!

thanks
regards
Dennis Dworak

btw: to proof the abuse report take a look at zbrushcentral.com
--
3C GmbH & Co.KG..
afterwards the page was gone.
simple easy useful ;)

greetz
k0s

Sebcesoir
07-27-07, 11:36 AM
Weird thing is I've got stolent one of my stuff again, a guy put my work on its resume...
The dumbass didnt even removed my email signature on it, so the compagny where he applied contacted me...:rolleyes: :lol:

dreamco
07-27-07, 01:34 PM
There is a saying: "You can fool many people for a short time, or few people for a long time". And definately this guy is fooling many people!!!!! The day is coming when everyone will learn his habits and fire him from any job. Cause we all live in such a damn small world ;)

Cheers

DocChaos
07-28-07, 02:30 AM
and we as artists are living in an microversum so..
it might even be, that you know guys from oversea and meat them shortly nearby your local area.. everything is possible.

eh i know YOU from somewhere by someone :D

regards
k0s

Radcliff
08-02-07, 07:45 AM
Wow, that really sucks that someone would steal other peoples' work like that. It does happen though. :cry: