View Full Version : Eeyore - now with Tigger!
Well, I think I am finally getting the hang of refining my zsphere models. Y'all know Eeyore...he was created with ZSpheres, as were the trees. Honeypots are sweep profile, honey puddles are deformed plane.
BTW, this was done with the low poly adaptive skinning, so it proves you can get good models even with that method.
http://www2.zbrushcentral.com/zbc_uploads/user_image-1030854754ckt.jpg
http://www2.zbrushcentral.com/zbc_uploads/user_image-1030854775msq.jpg
Mentat7
08-31-02, 09:41 PM
That is wonderful Brian!!! Perfect storybook presentation (and well suited to be in a book) Now you must do all the other Pooh characters! :D
Oh no, not my child hood all over again :D
I used to love Winnee the Pooh (am I spelling that right?).
looks very good Slosh, and yes, I agree, adaptive skinning is the way to go!
I can tell you love Zspheres just as much as the next person (me) :)
Great work!
- Shane
Wayne Hoyt
08-31-02, 09:48 PM
Boy, oh boy, does that take me back.... His expression just breaks my heart (in a good way!) Very nicely done. :tu: :tu: :tu:
That is perfect, Slosh. The whole pic is priceless. Good going.
Stonecutter
08-31-02, 10:48 PM
Beautiful, and perfecto, Brian!!
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Wow, I think the modeling is just perfect Slosh! :) Great expression too! :tu:
juandel
08-31-02, 11:51 PM
absolutely gorgeous illustration... and lovely to no end - bravissimo, Brian and a zillion :tu:s
- juandel
loqutos
08-31-02, 11:52 PM
Maybe it is the angle (or my eyes), but it appears on the Zsphere pix that you have flattened the zspheres in the ears and on the tail...(is that what you have done?) I didn't think they could be shaped other than in size (bigger or smaller). If they can be shaped or flattened as they appear....HOW?
Loqutos
BTW--absolutely excellent model, texture and composition! Bravo!
Northstarr
09-01-02, 12:06 AM
I saw this first at Renderosity, and I thought it was soooo cute! This is really excellent work. I love this one... :D
wooooooo hoooooooo looks Great :eek:
Wow, this is terrific! Colors, compositons, all first rate!
loqutos, yes the ears and tail were flattened after skinning. Apparently, this is where most of the refinement comes in. I could have used other tools such as the standard sphere to make the ears, then attached them post modeling, but that would probably have not looked as good, since I don't use the smudge tool very well! I used the low poly adaptive skin, set on 3 for resolution. This gave me a great start for further modeling. I have found that the unified skin, which is super hi-poly, is more difficult to model, since the slightest move has dramatic results. The low poly is smooth enough to look really good, yet still very workable. Give it a try!
Nice result, I think I shall have to try the adaptive skin as I'm having the same problems modelling the unified skin. It's a bit like trying to model with very wet clay, very sloppy, with clay I let it dry out a bit to get sharp defintion. With Zspheres I obviously have to dry out some polygons. :) :tu: :tu: :tu:
Dave
I couldn't resist...matching Door Stops
One for the rich man, and one for the rest of us!!!
http://www2.zbrushcentral.com/zbc_uploads/user_image-1030877784sfh.jpg
Ron Harris
09-01-02, 06:13 AM
nice choice of subject matter. You did Pooh Bear's friend justice on all these....I am going to right click him and show him to a four year old I know...she should really love him as much as my own kids will. Great job Bri :tu: :tu: :tu:
Flycatcher
09-01-02, 06:22 AM
Cutissimo! Very well done. :tu: :) :tu:
robotalk
09-01-02, 07:06 AM
Very GOOOD work with the ZSpheres-you moving along brilliantly---and adorable pictures--very nice work!! :D :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: :D
My 3 year old came running across the room when this wonderful work popped up on my screen. She approves, so do I. Excellent work.
-Tony
Excellent work. I have even tried my hands at the zspheres. As someone mentioned once you begin to understans them, they can become quite addictive :) :tu: :tu: :tu: Thanks for sharing. Nice looking door stops, I just did a set of turtle doorstops for a client made from Caymanite, a local semi- precious stone according to the GIA. :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu:
Just totally cool. This is my favorite Pooh character. Most excellent job.
Northstarr
09-01-02, 08:40 AM
As I suspected, that model looks great no matter what material you render it in! :)
I really can't afford it but I will take the gold one, there is always plastic --hee hee.
And I would appreciate it if you would carve up some jewels for the eyes as well. After all I must impress my friends!! :p
Le Discot
09-01-02, 09:26 AM
Cool work and very good modelisation! ;) :)
JOHNVQ3
09-01-02, 10:11 AM
:)beautiful Work :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu:
Sorry if I'm being a posing-hog. Vikki asked to see a side by side of the stages of Eeyore, so here it is...
http://www2.zbrushcentral.com/zbc_uploads/user_image-1030909764qsu.jpg
Slosh! That's terrific! Thank you! ;)
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That is soooo good, I love it :D :D
He's adorable Slosh! I love everthing about this image :tu:
Added Tigger...I may do a picture with Tigger by himself, but here he is for now.
http://www2.zbrushcentral.com/zbc_uploads/user_image-1031101785mwt.jpg
Stonecutter
09-03-02, 06:15 PM
Way to go Brian...Made my day! :D
You did a fine job with Tigger as well...You're on your way to the whole gang now ya' know...?
:D
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Wow Slosh, you're amazing. These are great. Waiting for pooh bear.
Northstarr
09-03-02, 07:03 PM
Oh Tigger!! He is my most favorite Pooh character... and he is doing his springing on the tail trick! Tooopoohcool!!!
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Get out your popguns... it's Tigger! ;)
Great addition Slosh! :tu:
juandel
09-03-02, 09:44 PM
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I like them both, although I do think think tigger should have his own painting as he greatly changes the way eeyore's painting is perceived.
Nice going. :tu: :tu: :tu:
Dave
I really love both of these! Fantastic job !! :tu: :tu:
[ Vincent ]
09-04-02, 06:56 AM
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I love it and my daughter too.
Nice work!
;)
Sorry for the late comments Slosh, but I must mention that you've done some really great character work here :tu: :tu: :tu:
Late as well Slosh but it is great seeing these lighthearted characters brought to life. I think it's cool how the children of some of the members of the forum here admire your work as well.
Great work!
jelee
A late thanks to the late comments! And yes, I think the fact that peoples's kids love the work is the thing that makes it worthwhile. I remember when I did the Wizard of Oz, I got a lot of people here and on Renderosity telling me how their kids love the picture.
Anywho, the wonderful thing about Tiggers is Tigger's a wonderful thing...so here he is all by himself!
T.T.F.N.
Brian
http://www2.zbrushcentral.com/zbc_uploads/user_image-1031204100esx.jpg
He looks like the perky tigger we all know and secretly love ~G~ Super job, Slosh
DMerchen
09-05-02, 05:47 AM
Nice work on all of these. Certainly having fun, aren't we? :D I had a question for you Slosh. Your first picture of Eeyore as a ZSphere looks like some of those spheres are flattened a bit. Is this true, or does it just appear that way due to the lighting? The reason I ask, is because I was trying to flatten one of those suckers last night, but it wouldn't budge. They are tough little dudes! :)
Edit: I went back and looked again and noticed the top view. They appear to be spheres. Just the shadowing I guess.
Yes, Dave, the ears are spherical in the unskinned version. It's just the render that is misleading. I think someone else asked me this, too, and I didn't realize they meant the unskinned version. Aurick suggested how to make refining easier when skinned. He says either turn off "autoresize" prior to skinning, or to use deform/resize XYZ a couple of times after skinning, before further modeling. He was right. This makes 100% difference in the ability to take the model further. It was exactly the question I have been asking since day one of testing, when seeing Southern and Mentat with high detail models. I couldn't figure out how they did it, but now we all know!
Here is another version of the unskinned models, maybe it's easier to see with the different material.
http://www2.zbrushcentral.com/zbc_uploads/user_image-1031247438sdx.jpg
Jaycephus
09-05-02, 11:10 AM
Awesome work, and especially nice job of capturing the manic and depressive attitudes of these two well-known characters, even in the Zsphere models.
Slosh.....great work! :)
What exactly do you mean by unclicking Auto Resize to make skinning modelling easier? In fact, what does Auto Resize do?
cheers.
Stonecutter
09-05-02, 12:54 PM
Hey Ken if you have your ZSphere tool, and uncheck Autosize, it prevents the mesh from becoming too fine...With a regular Sphere, or other tool, they are drawn at one Z-Unit in size, so all the brushes work sort of 'in scale' with the tool, so you can draw on the sphere to add features etc...A ZSphere will treat each sphere as one unit, thereby making a very fine mesh, hard to work on with any but the smallest brush size...When you de-select Autosize, it treats the whole ZSphere object as a unit size. Aurick explained it better, but if you make a simple ZSphere object, skin it with Autosize on, and off and then compare the meshes, you'll see what I mean... ;)
Wayne Hoyt
09-05-02, 12:55 PM
Tigger looks great, Slosh. I love these. :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu:
Very nice images, Slosh :eek: :eek: :tu: :tu:
stargo
I have to agree with Mentat... this is terrific story book illustration talent here...
Way to go, really nice job...
btw, being from Winnipeg Manitoba Canada originaly, ( the city "Winni" the Poo was named after), I sort of have a special place in my heart for these critters... thanx for sharing, it made my day... :D
What a nice reply, Gidgit! And I learned something as well. I had no idea of Winnie's origin, namewise.
Hi Slosh...
yes the famous Winnie the Poo was a cub bought from a hunter in Northern Ontario by a Canadian WW1 soldier named Harry Coulboure... who was from Winnipeg Manitoba, a vet in civilian life, and was passing through the town of White River Ontario enroute to a war posting in France... anyways, as the story goes Harry buys the cub and names him after his home town... Winnie quickly became the brigades mascot... when they were posted to France, Harry left the bear cub at the London Zoo... another soldier in France, AAA Milne, who enjoyed writing and illustrating stories for children wrote the story of Winnie the Poo for his son Robyn... though there is reason to believe, from other sources, that Robyn in fact did not even know about such story until some sixty years later... hmmm?
So there ya have it... Pooh was born in Northern Ontario, but was named by the soldier Harry, for his home town of Winnipeg...
btw... are ya going to do a Pooh? ;)
Bruce Gregory
09-18-02, 07:26 PM
Dear
slosh;
i like the Eeyore he is very well done. I am
nine. I think you should do more of Eeyore.
Your work is better than most of the other
stuff. Itis good that you do nice things
instead of monsters.
Elise.
I am assuming Elise is your daughter. Tell her I said thank-you very much for her compliment, and I will try to do some more Pooh characters soon.
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