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Frenchy Pilou
05-16-03, 10:36 AM
http://www2.zbrushcentral.com/uploaded_from_zbc/200305/user_image-1053106377euy.jpg

And I find this ! BRUSH SIZE = 1 :D

http://www2.zbrushcentral.com/uploaded_from_zbc/200305/user_image-1053106425fec.gif

Mondrian, Isn't it ? :cool:

Curiously that's only work in the same way !
From Left Down side to Up Right side !!!
Hope this help :)
Pilou

Jaycephus
05-16-03, 10:50 AM
:tu: Frenchy.

I've always wondered if this was possible and how to do it. I've resorted to exporting the selection as an Alpha, exporting the Alpha to psd, editing the pixels in PS, and then importing it all the way back into the selection. Try doing several iterations of that to get the perfect selection!! :(

Skaven252
05-16-03, 11:09 AM
Wow, Frenchy, you're one helluva discoverer! :D

Svengali
05-16-03, 05:14 PM
Frenchy,

Are you really selecting a facet? Or are you selecting a vertex? See what happens when you select only one facet, then Inflate (deflate) the object with a -100. Does it give you a facet as a plateau or a vertex as a peak?

Next try marking a cluster of four facets and deflate again. Does this now give you a facet as a plateau? I think this means that four vertices have been selected...

http://www2.zbrushcentral.com/uploaded_from_zbc/200305/user_image-1053131730agi.jpg


Maybe Aurick has the answer?

Sven

Jaycephus
05-16-03, 07:14 PM
From my experience, it is the vertices that are selected:

Graphire Pen (http://www.pixolator.com/zbc-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=007926&p=2)

Pixolator
05-17-03, 12:20 AM
Thanks Frenchy Pilou :) In 1.55b, the selection is indeed vertex based.
The next version of ZBrush will include powerful enhancements to the mesh-level interactivity.
One such enhancement is the selection&editing of PolyGroups...
http://www2.zbrushcentral.com/uploaded_from_zbc/200305/user_image-1053155353wto.jpg

:b3: :b3:The next version will be made available as a free upgrade to purchasers of the current (or earlier) versions of ZBrush. :b3: :b3:

:)

Jaycephus
05-17-03, 12:25 AM
:eek:

drjjwow
05-17-03, 12:57 AM
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :D

Mahlikus The Black
05-17-03, 01:44 AM
*shakes head in amazement* wonderful!
Pix, It both scares and excites me how you stress the word one :D :D :D :tu:

Grub
05-17-03, 02:29 AM
Thanks Frenchy, for opening this topic. :) Pixolator, those enhancements sound great... :tu: :tu: :tu:

Frenchy Pilou
05-17-03, 03:17 AM
I have said facet because it's was that I have seen :) I have forgotten "Take the Alpha Brush 0" for a better vision.
In any case with this method you can choice complicated selection :)
http://www2.zbrushcentral.com/uploaded_from_zbc/200305/user_image-1053166642lpz.gif
Have funny selection :cool:
Pilou

Mentat7
05-17-03, 05:35 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>The next version of ZBrush will include powerful enhancements to the mesh-level interactivity.
One such enhancement is the selection&editing of PolyGroups...
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Thank you thank you thank you!! :cool:

adamac
05-17-03, 06:13 AM
piloiu :) ist, den Sie der sicher Bergarbeiter Gold von zbrush Güter gut wir aller generisch uvmapper jetzt hat versteckt :) wirft Dose weg

traduction libre. le com

Svengali
05-17-03, 10:23 AM
Hi Frenchy,

Explicit selection of facets (vertices) is indeed a very helpful ability... I add my thanks for pointing it out and intend to make full use of it.

Now Pixolator reveals another surprise - polygroups, which will add another magnitude of usefulness and control in the 1.6 release of ZBrush.

I wonder how many other enhancements are still up his sleeve? I love these teasers he posts. If this keeps up imagine what release 2.0 will be like!

Sven

PusGhetty
05-17-03, 10:51 AM
Hi Frenchy!
Cool thread you started here.
Here is an adaptive skin house zscript that shows my technique for doing this (http://www.pixolator.com/zbc-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=010253)... I also bring the brush size down to one but I make sure that the intensity slider is at 100.
Pix,
Thanks for the sneak peek! Looks great, will we be able to make our own group selections or will we still have to rely on the Zspheres to designate the groups?
Take care,
Michael

Frenchy Pilou
05-17-03, 01:00 PM
Hi Adamac
I put your traduction in Google translator and obtain this :)
"est que vous avez bien générique plus uvmapper maintenant sûrement le mineur or zbrush produits nous toute mettez au rebut dissimulé boîte"
It's funny, you surely right but I have some difficulties to follow (it's the fault of translator) :)

Hi Push
It's your script that I have seen but the manipulation was a mystery for me !
I have seen the red boutton cursor choice the "facet/vertex" but not idea for obtain that :) What was your method ? similar than mine ?
In any case Pix has cut the "Gordian Knot" It's vertex :)

Pilou

cy
05-17-03, 01:36 PM
will you be able to make groups in zbrush this will be the great feature and will help draw new converts
just imagine the implications with uv mapping alone!

adamac
05-17-03, 02:55 PM
"" est que vous avez plus de uvmapper bien générique maintenant sûrement le mineur les maintenant produits de zbrush nous tout a mis à la boîte de fragment dissimulée"

is that you have more well generic uvmapper now surely the minor the now products of zbrush we all put to the fragment can concealed"

that's pretty funny :) english to german to french to english the trick is to seperate sentences well

Non non non mettre uvmapper générique dans les déchets trou interminable. ... :)

et vous avez découvert zbrushs le trésor caché toujours

havran
05-17-03, 04:33 PM
I think ZBC needs a Babelfish brush -- what if someone posts a question in Coptic and Aurick answers in Coptic? ;)

moogal
05-17-03, 05:11 PM
Wow, the grouping would be useful for making poser figures, like UVMapper. But what happened to displacement mapping?

ArfGraf
05-17-03, 06:23 PM
Wheww!!

The Z-Brush conversations really flow deep.

Is Z-Brush science or Art!?

ArfGraf
05-17-03, 06:33 PM
Pusghetty,

I just finished downloading and watching your house and building script. It was awesome and now I understand the vertex
selection :)

kokoro
05-17-03, 10:31 PM
thank you pixolater, that is also a feature i am missing badly ! cant wait.

KenH
05-18-03, 10:08 AM
Gulp! Zed is looking less and less like a toy to me! :tu:

PusGhetty
05-19-03, 11:30 AM
Pilou,
I used the same method as you... starting from the lower left hand corner and dragging up to the upper right hand corner... it seems this is the only way to do it!
I guess I should have embellished more on my technique when I first posted the script.
I am glad you brought it up though, alot of people can benefit from this type of single facet selection.
Moogal,
You can export a Zsphere skin with groups in 1.55b, This does help with making Poser figures. You still need to use uvmapper though because the groups are not broken down enough to form all the joints you need for Poser.
In 1.55b however you cannot yet make groups by selecting individual polygons.
From what Pix said, it sounds like this is what version 1.6 will do.
Displacement maps are only one of many new features that are supposed to be part of the next upgrade. I am positive that they will still be a cool new feature in 1.6.
Arfgraf,
Thanks for the compliment! I am glad you found the script useful! Keep up the good work!
Best regards,
Michael

DeeVee
05-19-03, 12:27 PM
Thank you thou master of "Z" Amazing stuff!!!

Frenchy Pilou
05-20-03, 12:19 AM
Hi Push
Confused that I have re-used your method :rolleyes:
(I think that nobody can find that with just seeing the script, I have rediscovered this by hasard! :)
But Delighted that could help someone before the next release :)
Have good Zbrushing :cool:
Pilou

Mahlikus The Black
06-05-03, 01:32 PM
Pix...This bings about a question. Will this polygroup selection allow for texturing a model with multi-mapping methods???...all the better for low-poly game models!!! What about masking said groups for better optimization control???

*puts on big watery puppy eyes*

Stonecutter
06-05-03, 01:46 PM
NOW you're talking, Ofer!! :cool:

You just opened up a whole new set of options for this 'Rock Abuser'...! :D

Take your time...I can wait!