wip...be gentle now :-)

[lincoln.renall]

Hi all....
this is only my second ever 3d modelling attempt (in any package), and i am self taught.......this is obviously a work in progress, so be nice now :-)
welcome any suggestions/comments.
was going to wait till it was complete to post it, but thought someone may be able to give me some ideas on scene comosition methods and how to get a nice realistic looking tree material.
i already have created some of my own alpha's from pictures of bark, but have not got to that stage in the project yet.
any ideas out there???????????
first image was a basic concept done in zbrush-charcoal.
second pic was sketched up using oil painting on canvas.
other pics show the WIP of the tree woman model......

charcoal_small.jpg
DSC03247_small.jpg
pic1.jpg
pic2.jpg

[Plakkie]

Man, what a great concept! Those 'sketches' are really nice, and the model looks very on its way already! I can see you have some background in painting and stuff. She is going to look great with detailing and texturing on her. Maybe you want to read this thread (http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthread.php?t=22264&page=1&pp=15) about a wood material?
Keep going and keep sending posts! Welcome to the Zbrush community. :tu:

[lincoln.renall]

thanks for for that...the post you mentioned is exactly the kind of hint i was after, points me in the right direction for creating a nice wooden look.
I will have to resist the temptation to rush into laying down those wood alphas and materials before i finish getting a nice tight form :-)

TOOOO MUCH BRO :cool:

[Plakkie]

Hehe, yeah, like a well known green philosofer said: "Control... you must learn control!". But you're right. In my first serious WIP I just went on with the detailing (for fun) and soon found out that the basic flaws in your model (form and flow) will haunt you all the way. I can already say you will make this a stunning image. Can't wait! :D

[lincoln.renall]

just another update...started playing about with the layout....obviously the models still need some work.....need to add more hills in background and also the tree_woman still needs a lot of TLC, and need to work out how to smooth down her bark-ness around the head and upper body..........bit of a learning process and all that :-)...also still learning how to add ground effects like grass etc.
anyway just an update of progress thus far.
pic3.jpg (http://attachment.php?attachmentid=35080&stc=1)

[lincoln.renall]

:-)
pic3.jpg (attachment.php?attachmentid=35083&stc=1)

[Plakkie]

I would like to see how you are coming along, but I can´t open the link. Can you just place the image in your post like last times?

[lincoln.renall]

heres another attempt to attach the image.
see if this works, for some reason it wouldnt attach properly last time?
still very basic looking at this stage, only other annoying thing is that as this model is placed quite small on the canvas, so i loose the close up view of all that nice detail.....also looks a bit naf at the moment, with one material plastered all over it .
I like how quick it is to rough in details like clouds and sky etc...
am considering making a 3d model of a cartoonish pufferfish for my next project, but thats a wee way off.
pic3.jpg (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:zb_insimg%28%2735165%27,%27pic3.jpg%27,1,0%29 )

[Plakkie]

Your initial drawings had this treewoman quite close-up. Why did you decide to put her more in the background in 3D? I'm just checking so forgive me if you knew this from day one, but do you know that the canvas size in Zbrush can be as big as you want? If you render it out bigger probably most of the detail will show up... Again, if this is obvious to you then pretend I didn't ask.
I like those rough clouds you did, Zbrush is quick at 2D painting, though I haven't done much with it myself (being a bad painter :().
It's funny how Zbrush opens your mind to new projects while you work in it. Hope you will finish this one; it looks so promising. :cool:

[lincoln.renall]

yep, i think your right.......originally i was going to try and make the 3d model as close as possible to the layout of the charcoal and oil drawings.....dut i think i might scale her up and focus on detailing the chaacter, not worrying so much about placing her into the scenery :-)

[lincoln.renall]

just an update....heres another pic......a bit more sculpting and playing around with various tools a hadnt tried yet :-)
welcome any ideas suggestions
pic4.jpg (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:zb_insimg%28%2735254%27,%27pic4.jpg%27,1,0%29 )
(http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:zb_insimg%28%27%27,%27pic4.jpg%27,1,0%29)

[Plakkie]

I still like the pose very much. It's fun trying out all those interesting buttons isn't it? :D May I ask you if you have a goal in mind making this? I mean: do you want it to resemble your beautiful painting as closely as possible? Or do you want to make a different version in 3D? Or do you just want to try out as many buttons as possible in the process? (which is a healthy goal in the when learning, I should know :cool:)
Maybe you could give the legsection more relief and detail: your painting had nice holes and structure there which would work very well in 3D, why not raise and hollow the model a bit more?
The roots on the fingers look very 'rooty' allready. The roots/braches on the head could do with more detail and distortion; they look a bit regular and unwoodlike just now.
Apart from coloring the model which you are doing already you could also look into materials. Maybe play around with the settings of a material to get some nice texture on it? Although not very tree-ish here's a link for a wood-material:
http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthread.php?t=22264&page=1&pp=15

Hope this helps! :)

[lincoln.renall]

Hi
thanks for the input...i have paused work on this one for now.....got a bit tired of the tree woman for now, but will do some more work on her later :-)
originally was going for exactly like the oil painting, but started to stray from that and kinda lost my way, got a bit more enjoyment out of my latest project. its kinda the same with oil painting too, usually have about 6 different unfinished works in the house at any given time ;-)
have posted the project i have been working on this week at the following:

http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthread.php?t=36134

cheers