A silly little play

[ed_the_atom]

ahhh what the hell.......


http://www2.zbrushcentral.com/uploaded_from_zbc/200407/user_image-1089293274qig.jpg

[cameyo]

Nice work :tu: :tu: :tu:
I wish you post more often...i like the painting side of zbrush.

cameyo

[Frenchy Pilou]

Perfect for a cover book :cool:
Pilou

[Dickie]

What I love about your work, Ed, is that even from the thumbnail, I know it's one of your models/works. It's always a pleasure seeing your stuff, Bro.. :)

Dickie

[ed_the_atom]

Thanks peoples

Here is something I started a few years back, but never finished......I decided to finish it, so I have added some work to it, however I do not have a reference to work off, the one I have is 250 miles away. In this instance i need a reference pic..... for colour and some nuances I know I am missing. I searched the net, but to no avail....there is a kind of uncoloured version about, but not the one I want. If anyone knows where this version of Frank is to be found on the net, do tell.... thanks.

As soon as I finish this I shall begin a few art promises I have made

http://www2.zbrushcentral.com/uploaded_from_zbc/200407/user_image-1089468942xsc.jpg

[Frenchy Pilou]

I can help you but, Frank who ?
Pilou
Ps Sorry if i don't recognize, but different countries have different stars !

[ed_the_atom]

Thanks FP...

Frank Frazetta......

I have searched many sites for the pic....

[Frenchy Pilou]

Ok I will go research :)
Pilou

[Frenchy Pilou]

Hi ED
http://www.sierra-arts.net/files/Mar04FHFFrazettaFrank2.jpg
Maybe this auto portrait in color can help you ;)
Of course Frank by Frank :D
Pilou
Ps Not yet refound your color photo if exist!
Pss Of course I have known him but not his face :rolleyes:
And yes it's a good one :cool:

[ed_the_atom]

Mmmmmmmmmm could well be, although I didn't think my memory was that bad......

It almost seems to me that he made a copy of his original....... but I could be wrong....
I probably am wrong though.

Thanks again FP I shall repaint the one I have to those specs :tu: :)

[Frenchy Pilou]

Hi ED
Best biography is here :) (http://www.frankfrazetta.com/ff/bio/index.html) but I suppose you have it :rolleyes:
Many photos inside!
Pilou
Ps Inside Auto portrait is more blue more little and less detailled!

[ed_the_atom]

Thanks.....

Yes that must be the painting ..... my memory is failing me it seems.....I went a little off track. I must see if I have another version of my copy laying about on this computer. So much for trying to paint from memory. :rolleyes:

[Frenchy Pilou]

http://images.google.fr/images?q=tbn:EslthW7MT2MJ:webhome.idirect.com/~korak/images/frazetta.jpg
http://www.deandaviswrotethat.com/frazetta2.jpg
http://www.die-einherjar.de/volume2/frank_frazetta_selfportraet.jpg
Pilou
Ps
Other are in the Biography above :)
I have reseen all the images of fantastic given by Google!
Thx for the visit
:cool:
Pss Curious that great Photographers has not take a portrait like Avedon or others :)

[ed_the_atom]

Wow thank you Sir :tu:

Hell. I'm beginning to wonder how I got so far off track....... some of my shapes are almost right, but that's about it :rolleyes:

[Jason Belec]

Frazetta was my single greatest influence. Motion in stills. I've tried to always show such natural motion in animation for my entire career. I'm drooling over my collection of his work at this very moment... :))

[ed_the_atom]

Yep Jason an exceptional artist.....

The gesture/movement in this (copy of Frazetta) done as a rough for the power within, in a series of warriors I did many moons ago. I never used the rough I only used it to get the feel of the warrior.

A wonderful example of Frazetta...for motion.
Mine as I say was a rough...never destined to be finished....


http://www2.zbrushcentral.com/uploaded_from_zbc/200407/user_image-1089476719ogs.jpg

[Frenchy Pilou]

E...Motion...ing indeed :)
Pilou

[wchamlet]

Great work ed! I'm a huge fan of Frazetta, and I too use to try and do studies from his work. If you have any more, please share, because I love it!

[Dickie]

Ahhhh, Frank Frazetta...he, Roger Dean and monster baseball cards were my first art influences...I bought a couple of Frank's books as a kid and would spend hours sketching
Frank's paintings...One hell of an artist...Now I gotta dig out my Frazetta books...


Dickie

[Ron Harris]

nice thread....and nice painting Paul. This is the first time I have ever seen an image of FF. And from the reference pic posted you are dang close to the real thing. Great job big guy!!

[ed_the_atom]

I have no more studies of Frazetta, I seldom copy.

However I will try a copy of Franks portrait.

I figure I will be totally psychotic at the end of it and the mouse will be dead.

I don't like computer art.....it takes too long, but I figure I might learn something here, so I will give myself 4 hours. I don't really know if I can do this on the computer. I shall soon find out. In my most optimistic belief....I forsee total failure.

This is the beginning.....horrible ain't it?

http://www2.zbrushcentral.com/uploaded_from_zbc/200407/user_image-1089537405cql.jpg


Four hours are up....well it could be done, but I only have the one lifetime..... I can't be bothered wasting anymore time. I shall complete it my way sometime. I won't even bother posting the result. Copying the features easy.....getting the colour right that's another story. I shall return to acrylic paints and brushes....faster and easier.

[50'sKID]

Hi Ed, I wish I could paint as well as what you call 'horrible'. :) 50.

[Jason Belec]

Hey ed_the_atom, it's a shame you feel that way. As art is art, no matter the medium or the process - it is all about creativity. I have several friends (some internationally acclaimed) as well as myself that can no longer use many traditional mediums anymore. Severe health isuues - accumulated over time, and we have all moved digitally with exceptioonal results. After all it's just a tool, one's ability and creativity are not affected by the tool.

Not trying to raise a fuss, just trying to point out the futility of disliking a medium or approach to art.


50's Kid - Yoda had an answer for you in the 'Empre Strikes Back' ;))

I really enjoy seeing people's drawings as much as paintings and 3d work on this site. So much creativity that helps everyone look at things anew and I would hope inspire greater things.

[Frenchy Pilou]

Hi Ed
If I understand you make your digital work with a Mouse !!!
If yes, you are some masochist :)
Try the pen graphic like a Wacom :)
But sure you are not oblige and retake the traditional tools, but for show it us here just make a little scan at the end ;)
And if you try the free ArtRage (http://www.ambientdesign.com/artrage.html) prog you can easily make the portrait of Frank in 5 minutes in your style!
With copy under or not
It's your choise!
With a graphic pen it's very easy to interpretate your favorite painter!
Yes it's maybe not true art with "A", but sensation of art for anybody accessible :cool:
Pilou
Ps Belec has right : only creativity is important!
And pleasure to make it :cool:
Pss Of course you can make the same of Artrage with Zbrush (with the system of layers by Aurick :cool:
(just the oil painting effect will be not exactly the same but possible too)

[ed_the_atom]

Hi FP

yep I am a masochist :)
The mouse does drive me crazy, especially when I need line 4 pixels and below. (well any line for that matter).

Jason, yes I understand your point.
I was refering to the process more than the art. While some works are fast, others are painfully slow. Impetus and spontaneity are lost (for me anyway). I sounded very general I must admit. The Frazetta the traditional way would have taken a max of 4 hours for me.....probably less.

Thanks for the info FP. As for placing a copy on a layer underneath a copy I might undertake,,,,,for me defeats the purpose of copying.... the challenge and learning diminish. Anyone can trace something.

[Frenchy Pilou]

Hi Ed
So you take the hard way :rolleyes:
It's your choice :rolleyes:
Pilou
Ps I was in "le Louvre" some days ago
There was a lot of painters who "copy" the great Masters with the traditional tools brushes, pencils...
With the modern digital tools you can make the same, very more quickly and with the same learning but with a "graphic pen"
:rolleyes:
You keep the "hand moving"!
Ask marcel who draw with a Cintiq what is his point of view :)
Pss Not at the same size, I am agree, a monitor is some little for some paintings :D

[ed_the_atom]

Ahh the Louvre......you lucky person.

I downloaded Artrage...I shall try what you suggest.... Frenchy :)

[Frenchy Pilou]

I am not sure that Artrage with a mouse should be very easy! :)
But happy ArtRaging in any case!
Pilou
ps
"Le Louvre" in English :) (http://www.louvre.fr/louvrea.htm)