The fall of Icarus

[murray]

Long time no post,but I'm always watching the talent flow around here.This was
done using the invaluable Meats wire method.Still getting mileage out of it.Thanks Meats.Poser model used...pure laziness.the-fall-of-icarus.jpg

[Ctrl-Z]

For work this abstract, I don't think it's lazy at all. You're using the human form as a primitive, no different from a sphere or a cube. Your composition bears little resemblance to it's origin... Why sculpt something only to deconstruct it so completely? That would be a waste of time if you have any other options.

If it were a portrait, there might be controversy. But it's not, and there isn't.

(great job, by the way. very moving!)

[Lukasa]

its amazin... its art :] good luck

[SanAndreas]

im a huge fan of computer made abstract images.. and i have to say.. wow

[murray]

It's a shame you lads were'nt at the show with your visa/mastercards (Barclaycard) lols.jpg

[murray]

It's a shame you guys were'nt there with your visa/mastercards (Barclay card)

lol

[lemonnado]

Really NICE!!!!! PLEASE post the other pic you are standing next to 8-).

What I personally do not like is the 'fairy' Poser world.... But that's my personal pref.

I agree with CTRL-Z and think it's the perfect use of a primitive. If one would have to refrain from this usage no sphere or cube may be drawn and all vertices have to be moved into place manually by entering the location in binary notation with on off switches on an old CPU panel while the coordinates of the model will be updated on line printers :D:lol::rolleyes:.

I love to use Poser once in a while for posing and for 'spare parts' and for People standing/sitting in Architecture.

You're not lazy!

LemonNado

[remcv8]

This is one of very few images that I've seen, where someone used Poser and it didn't look like Poser. Most of the Poser stuff out there is crap in my opinion, but you've utilized it for a completly stylistic, graceful piece of work.

Like Ctrl-Z said "You're using the human form as a primitive, no different from a sphere or a cube."

Beautiful work!!!

By the way, how much were you selling each piece for?

[murray]

They are all giclees on fine art paper(really nice prints)I have a potential buyer for Icarus @ $1800 framed.I sold 6 16x20 matted pieces for $75 at the opening.
It was a cool experience all round...first show.It's a great exercise to take these half baked ideas that are collecting dust on the harddrive,bring them to completion and throw them out there.

[1stbrother]

excellent.

[lemonnado]

Funny, I was draging a print (Canon S9000) 13x19 to a framer today and I have to go there again as I sold my print to him hahahaha. It seems that the acceptance of CG Art is growing.

Did you print that CMYK or did the printer have a greater color gamut?

LemonNado

[murray]

Here's the other pic
dialogue.jpg

[lemonnado]

Also very nice!!! I like that style. You have to post more:D Very inspirational.
When you like Meats wire style, be sure not to miss my Knot thread:
http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthread.php?t=28866
Lemonnado

[billrobertson42]

Icarus has always been a favorite topic of mine, and I think you have added to my appreciation of the subject. thanks.

[Suzana]

Very interesting work murray.
Again, I really like abstract work and encourage artists to create it where ever I can. The world what you create is very emotional, special and original.
Best luck, this is definitaly top row material.

[neuroticgothguy]

simply amazing..

[Abyssis]

yay, murray, this is exactly the art I like.... FUNtastico:tu: :tu: :cool:

[jantim]

I was thinking more of Dali ,then of Meats -wire's ,when i saw your work,.....and the prints look good !...did you had to do a lot of post-production before you could print them !?

jantim

[vlad74]

wow. Really really good. Excellent. . I hope we will see more and more zbush artists presenting their art not only online but in real galleries.:tu::tu::tu::tu::tu:

[yoogy]

Fantastic - good old Dali - he´s still alive in a new Reincarnation :D

I like it :tu:

[DarthWayne]

Truley insperational so five stars from me. I have to agree it is very reminisant of later Dali work. To my mind you've taken the 'meat technique' and played with it to make it something that looks nothing like a model done by meat. Its also great to see CG art being taken seriously, and about bloody time to I may say!

I'd love to see some more of your work, because your sense of conposition is amazing.

Wayne...

[Dickie]

Murray: Outstanding art. I really like the Icarus pic. Your use of light and dark, the pose, Just wonderful. The second piece is nice also, but the Icarus piece is the one that gets me excited...Beautiful. Oh, and congrats on your sales...:D I wanna see more now...


Dickie

[hypnotik]

oufffffffffffffffffff exellent

[Frenchy Pilou]

It's seems that in your last picture, a lyon's paw is strangely supernumerary ;)
Pilou

[Drummer]

really cool art !
congrats, man :cool: :tu:

[MattHHH]

Amazing work and wonderful atmosphere,Ther's something of metallic in your work!

:tu: :tu: :tu:

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ALIEN FACE HUGGER (http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthread.php?t=25941&page=1&pp=15)


MattHHH :cool:
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[remcv8]

The sepia-toned image with two figures, the poses, figure distortion remind me of some of Dali's work.

[Steevo]

Dear NG:

Nice work Murray - very surrealist. Here is a recent image I created recently using the Meats method and poser content. The images contain some similarities....I called it the "Emergence of Form".

Cheers.

The Emergence of Form.jpg

[drmapl]

Amazing stuff!!! Very inspiring :tu: :tu: :tu:

[pixelsoul]

:D Wow great work... can you tell me where you found the meats way :o

[Jinian]

This is suberb work. What is the "Meats" wire technique, can you tell me where i can get it and what it is? Basically, how'd you create those things that wrap around the body and manage to get such perfect cut and complex shaped edges like that? If this is a render in zbrush, how'd you manage to work on 2 objects at the same time? Since i know zbrush only can incorporate one and have to drop the other .

[aminuts]

Meats' wirestyle mini tutorial (http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthread.php?t=21455&page=3&pp=15&highlight=wire+style)

[88 finger louis]

Murray could i ask a question on how you went about reproduction of your work as hard copy print?
I'm still in my infancy as regards talent by comparison to many of the amazing artists that frequent the zbrushcentral forum. However i have made some images i would like to have made into 'hard copy' for my own personal use (i.e hang in the hall of my cottage) The problem is knowing the best way to get them reproduced. I have spoken to a litho printers where i live and they say the best method (as an all round method i.e color/detail/longevity) is to have stocastic prints done with light fast inks. However the cost is quite shocking and after the initial quote all my hair fell out!!! The other option was a digital print on 75 yr lifespan media up to A0 size for a reasonable price but they said they could not guarantee accurate color reproduction. I have gone for the latter due to the fact the pieces will only be kept at home but wondered (in case i sell to others) what you found to be the best availble at reasonable cost? Any guidance would be gratefully appreciated....and stunning work dude btw...really good. Many people slag off poser but your use of it illustrates it perfectly as a simply another valuable tool just as sphere geometry and the like are. Well done...and i look forward to seeing more of your inspirational creations.....Louis

[hypnotik]

fantastic:tu:

[murray]

Hey Louis,
I use a guy who owns an epson 9600.He charges $12.50 a square foot.This is the cheapest around,most places charge double.
The results are ,I think,amazing.His monitor is calibrated very well and the prints are really close to what is onscreen.As they are digital images and we are not really reproducing an original color correction is not a huge issue for me.My printer has some clients who reproduce watercolours and that can be a little more problematic.
If you choose to print the way I do make sure the inks are chrome inks and not photo dyes.The chrome inks in conjunction with acid free paper should leave you with a print that will last 80 years or so.If you are determined that your pieces outlive you, paint in oil.The way I look at it you can always archive images on cd or dvd until until printing gets better and cheaper...it has come a long way in ten years.You'll probably be able to buy a vacuum packed epson 9600 hanging next to the calculators and LED watches at the Seven Eleven around the corner from your house in a couple of years anyway.Good luck with it.Hope this helps and thanks for the kind comments. Murray

[88 finger louis]

Thanks Murray

[Sigmund Hentze]

Hi, there all the way from Namibia in Africa, your work is really great and I would like to know more about the Meats wire method, where can I find more on this?

Ziggy

[Abyssis]

Hi, there all the way from Namibia in Africa, your work is really great and I would like to know more about the Meats wire method, where can I find more on this?

Ziggyhi dude, try to click on http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthread.php?t=21455&page=2&pp=15&highlight=wire+style

there is a small tut 4 ya :)

-cheerZ-

...and something more from Svengali:
"Hi Frenchy,

As you say, the delete hidden points technique was known.

Actually, the innovation here is a creative use of features unique in ZB2, the Morph Target buttons. Meats takes the polymesh exoskeleton created by deleting the hidden points, and stores it as a Morph Target.

Then, the polymesh as a whole is inflated (uniformly expanded) .

He then lets the Create Diff button capture the DIFFERENTIAL between the stored Morph Target and the inflated version. This gives the whole exoskeleton VOLUME. The result is similar to the kind of 3D objects we get when we use the Make 3d button under the Alpha Menu except here the result is a sophisticated 3D object enclosing the contour volume of the original model.

Of course that object can then be modeled further as he does in the final step of his tutorial.

It's a new technique with huge potential for ZBrush modeling.

Sven"

enjoy, m8...