Men at Work...............WIP

[Drummer]

Men at Work...............WIP..............first test.......

I'm sleeping..........................zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
good night, guys.
hope you like it


--->Latest update in page 3 (http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthread.php?t=26389&page=3&pp=15)

test01.jpg

[SolidSnakexxx]

The details are awesome. The texture makes him look really wearly and old. (^_^) Great work

Yong

[Mytholon]

This guy is really worn out. Its always good to see human condition on models.

[Drummer]

SolidSnakexxx : thx a lot for comment, I spend a lot of time to test for creating a good human skin, as you can see from my previous work and it's good for me read this type of comments:)

Mytholon : thank you very much ! It's important for this wip to show the sense of effort of this "man at work". This is the head model, now I have to give him life with expression and with a body. I hope to make a good work for the final render that I'll do in XSI with normal map created in ZB before.
Thx again and congrats for your last work, it's amazing :) :tu:

[Frenchy Pilou]

...a very joyous work :D
Pilou

[Drummer]

Pilou, thx for comment:)

[pinkarman]

congratulations!!! very cool work!!
I adore the skin texture.. and the whole work..
just a couple of tips: try to add some details in the ear, but first try to change the light and/or material of the eyes, I think they could be better integrated with the entire face..
however.. great work!!! :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu:

pinkarman
__________________________________________________
my current WIP "screaming face" is available @
http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthread.php?p=211374#post211374 (http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthread.php?p=211374#post211374)
please give a couple suggestions to a li'l kid!

[Drummer]

thx pinkarman !
I hope to make a good work for the final render that I'll do in XSI with normal map created in ZB fron this model.:)

thx again

[Bas Mazur]

Nice and ugly like Claus Kinski

[Drummer]

thx Bas.

This is the final head model with the final skin. now I'm going to create the body. Emh, now I'm really going to sleep.....
I hope you prefer this than the old other :)


MAW.jpg

[pinkarman]

I've got no words.. just phantastic.
:idea: Very good choice the Caravaggian light and shadow

pinkarman
__________________________________________________
my current WIP "screaming face" is available @
http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthread.php?p=211374#post211374 (http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthread.php?p=211374#post211374)
please give a couple suggestions to a li'l kid!

[gattomanzo]

Wonderful as ever Drummer!!!

last image is done in XSI right?

[Drummer]

all is done in ZB, guyz !

about XSI I have to do more tests before posting
:) thx

[vivien]

EXCELLENT MY LOVE! i wish i could work in zb too.... :( but it doesn't work :(

[Drummer]

hi guys :)
this is a body and clothes test....the best I've done today.
hand and helmet and scene are in progress......
all is don in ZB.
hope you like it :cool:
advices are welcome

test02.jpg

[Drummer]

this is a little pic of my step by step....

tu_quad.jpg

[lemonnado]

GREAT! I've seen him before!
Many times...
:tu::tu::tu:
LemonNado

[vivien]

you're the best my love!!! go go go!!

[Drummer]

thx........

lemannando : sorry but, who have you seen before :qu: :D

[Baryonix]

Inpressive work ! He is a very bad guy. ;)

Thank's for the step by step picture. :tu:

[Drummer]

many thx for comments, friends !!
this is another step by step for the rendering.....
I placed each one of this "parts" on different levels.

tu_quad2.jpg

[pinkarman]

koool..... :tu:


pinkarman
__________________________________________________
my current WIP "screaming face" is available @
http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthread.php?p=211374#post211374 (http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthread.php?p=211374#post211374)
please give a couple suggestions to a li'l kid!

[ilusiondigital]

So nice, very good indeed

[Drummer]

thx so much for comment !!
this is the first render of the complete "man at work".......
hope you like it...

men-at-work1.jpg

[lemonnado]

:tu::tu::tu:
WOW, great gloves!
LemonNado

[pinkarman]

:eek: ...
TOP ROW! TOP ROW! TOP ROW!

[jotajota]

:ex: :tu: :tu: :ex:

[Bas Mazur]

Great Drummer!! I hope Vivian likes it too :D

[Drummer]

hey guys !! I love your comments :D :D :D

Bas : vivien says hi :p she says she likes it too

[Dickie]

Awsome character, Drums...Really nice modeling and design. I like the face...he looks tired. The hands are well done also. Thanks for sharing your
work flow...:tu:

Dickie

[MattHHH]

What can I say,great work my friend.Which alpha do you use to make wrinkles and skin texture?

Greetings,HHH:cool:

P.S.:Triple H (the wrestler,not me) reigns:tu: :tu: :tu:

[lodenfactory]

Very good drummer, you have created an awesome character here! I like very much his personality! Keep up the good work ;)
Ecceziunale!!!
Ciao

[Jhotun]

It is looking very good, but some things catch my eye. The speculars of the skin are very hard. Try to use more contrast on the main light but less specular... mmmm, I mean, more like Splinter Cell :)

Also, the helmet could look better with a more plastic material.

Keep it up!

[Drummer]

many thx, friends, for comments!!

Dikie : thank you very much for your much appreciated comment :)

Matthh : thx !! the alpha is taken from a macro jpg of a skin, converted in grey scale.

lodenfactory : thx a lot !! your last work is amazing too !!:cool: :tu:

Jhotun : thx, man for your suggestions, but the problem is maybe the diffuse because the specular is very very little...about the helmet you are right, this is not the best material I can use. great Splinter Cell.
great your last work and congrats for top row !! :cool: :tu:

[Drummer]

hi guys....this is maybe the final render in ZB !!

now I must try to have the same result in XSI.
hope you like it.

man-at-work_uunito03.jpg

this is the img without the photoshop effect.
man-at-work_1024.jpg

[Bas Mazur]

Great image Drummer!! I like to it see as a toprow!!

[lemonnado]

I LOVE both. They are very different.
:tu::tu::tu:
LemonNado

[gattomanzo]

Surely the best work among yours since now....
your progresses are incredible!!!!
:tu: :tu: :tu:
5 stars from me!!!

[vivien]

i like the one with the light! i love you darling !!!!!:tu: :tu: :tu:

[honeypie]

Whoa

[Jhotun]

Hey Drummer, you are doing a great job there. I love the blur on the back rocks, it makes it very real.
The light from the candle to me looks very photoshop filter. Umm, maybe you should try a different one or make it by hand :D

The specular looks much better now. Are you going to work on the helmet? Think that it is a very simbolic object of that guy, it has to look perfect :)

Keep it up!

PD: It is your thread! :)

[Abyssis]

heya drummer, I like both pic too :tu: :tu: :D

[ilusiondigital]

Great final image, Drum.

And great composition with the background :tu:

[Drummer]

Bas : thank you very much, my friend !! I would be happy :D, but it's ok the same for me.

lemonnando : many thx my firend :)

gatto : eh eh you are my lights magister !!

vivien : I love you more every day !!! :o :p

Honeypie : thx for comment.

Jhoton : yes, I'm working on the hard hat and now this is the pic :D . I've decided to follow your suggestions and experience :tu: . thx a lot for following this WIP, it's important for me to improve my tecnique and style.

Abyssis : thank you very much :)

ilusion : thx friend, but it is not the final img....now I'm working on the hard hat and the final compositing. thx a lot :)

hard-hat.jpg

[Drummer]

I hope this is the final :D

man-at-work_finale.jpg

[Frenchy Pilou]

...for him...and for you ;)
Bravo! :cool:
Pilou

[GORILLA]

Looks cool. Too bad you couldn't make him sweating :)

[ACFred]

I like the subject matter. I'm glad you smoothed out the helmet a bit. although the use of the gold texture is a little confusing to me.

The rock texture as well as the metal rod/spike thing look nice, as does the body skin. I think the wrinkles of the glove, just at the wrist, need work. Right now they're a bit muddled and could use some sharpening. The texture also doesn't give a sense of realistic wear. In fact, the wear seems uniform across the entire texture.

The fabric of the shirt doesn't look so much like fabric, but papier-mache. Like the gloves, I'd like to see some realistic wear on the shirt. Arm-pit stains around the bottom rim of the arm hole, and maybe some more distinct staining around the neck hole and belly.

The color of the pants looks pretty cool. Nice and grossly dirty look. Unfortunately, the texture doesn't really resemble anything but the craggy face of Edward James Olmos. There is nothing that looks to me to be realistic creasing around the crotch area. I'd tone down the bumpiness and concentrate more on defining a look that better suits the pose. His left leg seems to be coming forward, so look at what your pants do when you move your leg forward to get an idea of what sort of wrinkles are formed.

The facial texture itself is pretty good, but the specular seems a bit confused. I don't get any sense of recent exertion on this guy's part. Where is the shininess from the sweat? Also, take a look at an anatomy book to help out with the vein in his forehead. It looks more like a random line when it could really be a nice addition to the image.

I really enjoy the setting and the feel you're going for. I just think it's lacking in places that keep it from being a better piece. Tighten up the displacement a bit and decrease it's overt impact. Even though the character is stylized, shoot for more realistic feel to the accoutrements and I think it'd help to ground him in reality and bring the work home.

Keep it up!

Alec

[pinkarman]

great work,man! I saw your two latest updates only now and they are really FORI DE TESTA!! complimentoni!!! Really better the 2nd version of the helmet :tu:

[Sebcesoir]

hes ugly, but its great..

nice atmosphere and rendering..
good work man...

[kobayashi]

:tu: :tu: I like glove too real

[vivien]

Aleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee' Aleeeeeeee' Amore Mio!!!!!!!!!!!!! Here's The "lode" !!!! Ti Amo!!!!!!!!!!!! I Love You Drummer!!!!!!!

[gattomanzo]

i'm proud of you!!!!

keep up the good work!!!:tu: :tu: :tu:

[mattcioffi]

great work:tu: really nice character design -i dig the face. only crit is with the light. i would just keep it off or just remove the flare cuz it looks like he's coming out of the cave and into the light.

can you show other views of the model and wires?

cheers

[pinkarman]

GRANDE!!!! congratulations for the top row friend!!!! :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu:

[Arts]

very nice.:)

[Drummer]

hey guys, I'm very happy to read your comments !!! :D :D

thx to everybody follewed this WIP, it is really an honor for me ;)

this is the final img without lens flare.....I understood that it is not a good idea :D !!
I hope you like it .

man-at-work_aleoo.jpg

[lemonnado]

Very Good! THIS is a very nice picture.
:tu::tu::tu:
LemonNado

[Dutchman]

Great artwork, indeed! :cool: Great interaction between the environment and the character (as I know how hard it is to place objects to 'interact' in ZB :rolleyes: :o )! Also very good lighting & shading...!

Bravo! :cool: :lol: & Good luck with your further projects! :lol: ,
Gijs

[remcv8]

Holy Crap!!! I've been eyeing this thread and watching your progress and just can't say how cool this is. The way that you pieced it all together answered a whole load questions. Not to say that you made my learning alot more fun.

Thanks,

Love this pic!!!

[Bas Mazur]

TOPROW, I told you :tu: :tu: :tu: :tu:

[jotajota]

men art work :tu:

[Drummer]

thx for all comments, guys !!

Bas : I'm really happy for the top row !! It'is the first big result for a young 3d man like me !!! thx for your support :D :D :D

[MattHHH]

Only one thing.BRAVISSIMO MARCO!!!

Great rendering of the cave's rock.
SEI GRANDE
Bye bye my friend, MATTHHH:cool:

[Bas Mazur]

You earned it with a good piece of work!!Keep going :tu:

[Drummer]

:D :D :D

[marciani]

Is it your first Top Row? Congratulations
First of a long series.;)
Ciao
Leo

[Drummer]

grazie Leo !!!
:D :D :D

[mattcioffi]

sweeeet -- looking forward to your next creation:tu:

[monstermaker]

Drummer,
Hi , I just caught this one. It cool I especially like the gloved hands. Great work man.
I'm curious is the body in the final image the same one that is in earlier zsphere step by step post?
Also how did you make the shirt so it fit the body so well?
I still have a lot to learn about Zspheres.
I appreciate the obvious amount of time and work that you put into your posts. Keep posting man
mm

[Drummer]

mattcioffi and monstermaker, it's an honor for me read your words !! I love what you have done !!


mattcioffi : thank you very much for comment! I'm really glad :)


monstermaker : thx a lot man for your attention!! you have a lot to learn about ZPheres ?? You !!?? :D are you joking, man ?
about the body, yes it is the same that was in the step by step...I changed only the abdomen, I made it fatter, like a man who likes to drink a little bit, eh eh :).
Then I added the bands on the arms with the projection master (double sided, without fade) in 2 or 3 steps. I have done thess particular things after having converted the zspheres to poly3D.
The shirt is done from a selection (ctrl + mouse) drawn on the body, like the Meats' wire style tutorial (I have just used this tecnique for clothes in "Spare Part Factory WIP"). I think the wire style is Meats property, but his tecnique can be useful for other things, for clothes it's perfect !!
I hope to have been helpful (I know you are joking:D ).

If you like I can give you my MSN address
(no problem if you don't):)

[monstermaker]

Hey Drummer,
I wasn't joking. I know very little about Zspheres. If you look at my work it's mostly heads or simple shapes. I suppose I should read up on them or watch some of the zscripts. I usually like to figure stuff out by doing rather than reading but I keep getting wierd stuff happening when I use them and make an adaptive skin. I've usually made unified skin
off of them because I found them to be closer to the zsphere shapes that I created. I didn't even realize that you had to store the morph target until I saw your step by step post today. I would put the zspheres in the final position that I wanted. Hey I've only been doing this for about 6 months I have a lot to learn. And yes I would like your address thanks
mm

[Drummer]

yeah, man !!

[saltapiedras]

Excelente trabajo Drummer. Me gusta más sin el foco, o por lo menos yo le quitaría intensidad a la luz. Muy bueno.:tu: :tu: :tu:

[Drummer]

thx and congrats for your top row ! :D :tu:

[calum5ZB]

Great stuff,love it:-)bye cal

[doron]

calum - you are realy doing some digging arent you? :lol: